Tina Brown: Bush would have been impeached by now over Obama drone policy

BILL MAHER, HOST OF “REAL TIME” ON HBO: The Obama administration has been heavily targeting whistleblowers — true — and information activists. What can we do to hold the government accountable for this harsh crackdown?

TINA BROWN, NEWSWEEK: I mean, he’d be impeached by now for drones, if he was George W. Bush.

MAHER: Impeached? No.

BROWN: Yeah, don’t you think?

MAHER: Impeached, by who? Who would –

BROWN: I think if this was a Republican president, the outcry about drones would be far greater.

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Bush would have impeached by now over Benghazi, Fast and Furious, or the economy, or a million other things Obama has done. But because the media refuses to attack Obama for the ILLEGAL things he is doing (because they are bought and paid for by the White House like CNN), no one will even take the idea of impeachment seriously.

The media is manufacturing consent. Nothing will ever be done to hold Obama accountable. Ever.

Why hell would Bush be impeached for simple things like that?

He pretty much destroyed 2 countries and over 100,000 lives on both sides and nothing happens.

Obama does something 1/10 of the scale, all of a sudden, "Hang him!"

The Republicans hold the majority in the House of Representatives, so why don't they start the impeachment process? Is Tina Brown implying that the Republicans would impeach one of their own (Bush), but don't feel the need to bother with impeaching a Democrat President? Logic fail!

Originally posted by luciddream
Why hell would Bush be impeached for simple things like that?

He pretty much destroyed 2 countries and over 100,000 lives on both sides and nothing happens.

Obama does something 1/10 of the scale, all of a sudden, "Hang him!"

actually

Obama has started more conflicts than bush

Syria, lybia, The Northern Africa conflicts China (currency war)

so you are wrong liberal

The principal of her comment is true. Think about what he has done. How can anyone say that he has NOT commited impeachable offences? Republican or democrat...it doesnt matter. Obama thinks he is above the law and its pretty damn obvious.
I mean seriously look at what clinton went thru just for getting a hummer!!!
Who cares, Hillary should have been giving him some.
Now we have obama passing eo's and side stepping the law to suit his needs and thats not a big deal??? Maybe we should just get a woman to seduce obama and that will get it done....

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Did you know Bush passed executive orders? many don't because(well i don;t want to get into this issue) but sadly, its is not a important issue when he does it.

Originally posted by LeatherNLace
The Republicans hold the majority in the House of Representatives, so why don't they start the impeachment process? Is Tina Brown implying that the Republicans would impeach one of their own (Bush), but don't feel the need to bother with impeaching a Democrat President? Logic fail!

That's an outstanding question. Why, indeed? Boehner is why. The same 'why' that's been helping make this nightmare a reality...WITH Obama...for a couple years now.

As you rightly note, the House of Representatives is Republican and it has been since 2010. The House is the SOLE AND ONLY origin point for the Federal Budget and spending matters....and on that alone, could stop a good part of this madness we see every day. Even the Drone Program could be cut or severely restricted by the House if only Boehner would permit the mere discussion of 0'ing out funding for ALL drone related programs.

Of course, we'd need to HAVE a budget in the first place...so see above, wash, rinse, repeat until so confused it all looks normal. That's the point and why there IS NO DIFFERENCE between R and D anymore. Just different names to the same sick machine of perpetual war and death.

GW went beserk with drone attacks in his last year as POTUS, Tina talks the Brown stuff. Besides GW hasn't been impeached for anything...yet. It's very difficult to impeach an idiot just because he's an idiot.

Originally posted by smurfy
GW went beserk with drone attacks in his last year as POTUS, Tina talks the Brown stuff. Besides GW hasn't been impeached for anything...yet. Besides, it's very difficult to impeach an idiot just because he's an idiot.

You know your an idiot when there is A WHOLE BOOK OF IDIOTIC QUOTES from GW...I have that book and it is very amusing.lol

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I don't know about impeached... I suppose it is possible, but there certainly would have been a more virulent public and possibly media outcry over these policies. Obama does enjoy a certain cult of personality that gives him a pass on gross breaches of constitutional and even human rights. It's creepy.

Originally posted by redhorse
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I don't know about impeached... I suppose it is possible, but there certainly would have been a more virulent public and possibly media outcry over these policies. Obama does enjoy a certain cult of personality that gives him a pass on gross breaches of constitutional and even human rights. It's creepy.

Creepy it is. Almost like he has the media in his pocket.......wait, oh yeah my bad.

STOP THE PARTISAN CRAP!!!

WTF is the matter with you all!?!? Did I just see someone post that two wrongs make a right? Did I see another partisan hack excuse Obama but condemn Bush???

And you all wonder WHY this country is swirling down the crapper? Oh. My. God!!!

When you let one get away with murder, they ALL get away with murder. When you let one usurp the Constitution, you allow ALL to usurp the Constitution. When you let one enslave us all under the guise of security, then you allow ALL to enslave us under the guise of security.

Politics is NOT a team sport! There is no "my team" versus "their team"! This is OUR COUNTRY! Not yours, or theirs - ALL of OURS!!! So many of you simpletons have been programmed to believe that you need to excuse the dirty deeds committed by your "team" because you've been fooled to believe that the end justifies the means. Guess what!? IT DOESN'T!!!

There were a myriad of reasons that Bush could/should have been impeached. He wasn't. The bigger question is why??? Same applies to Obama - and the bigger question remains - How come he hasn't been?

I'll tell you why... Because BOTH parties are just the opposites sides of the same coin. And that coin is counterfeit! It is made of aluminum and not worth ANYTHING!

So you all go ahead playing "heads versus tails" while the country burns to the ground. And someday when your children ask you what you did to protect their freedom and liberty, you can replay: "I was too busy rationalizing and dissembling to do anything meaningful to protect your future dear."

Disgusting!

I'm still trying to figure out the issue with using drones on US citizens that are suspected of immediate terrorist activity.

To me, there isn't much difference between using a UAV or a sniper rifle. Both are tools designed to neutralize a threat, the drones are just the newest iteration.

But hey, keep trying to lynch Obama for breathing.

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Exactly, what the different if they search "potential terrorist" from an attack helicopter or a drone? its just a searching tool, probably cost effective.

Its mainly due to bad reputation drones have... lol its a whole different ball games when its flying over their country, but it was all cool when it was flying over children's school in middle east.

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He pretty much destroyed 2 countries and over 100,000 lives on both sides and nothing happens.

Your statement assumes that there was a lot to destroy in those two countries. There wasn't!

Concerning the death toll that you stated:
1) Saddam Hussein is believed to have been responsible for approx. two million Muslim deaths.

2) According to the United Nations, the Taliban, and their allies, are responsible for 76% of the civilian death toll in Afghanistan.

Obama does something 1/10 of the scale, all of a sudden, "Hang him!"

You are the only one that said "Hang him!", but I'm sure that is only an exaggeration based on the same emotional nonsense that "Obama does something 1/10 of the scale" is.

I have no doubt that you were, and most likely you still are, screaming "Hang him!" in regard to Mr. Bush, so that certainly lends credence to the assertion:

Bush would have been impeached by now over Obama drone policy

See ya,
Milt

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I agree, any president who uses drones to kill innocent civilians, wether US citizens or not, should be impeached.
As a libertarian, I don't pull any punches when dealing with either major party. They are the reason we are in such a mess!

Originally posted by Evil_Santa
I'm still trying to figure out the issue with using drones on US citizens that are suspected of immediate terrorist activity.

To me, there isn't much difference between using a UAV or a sniper rifle. Both are tools designed to neutralize a threat, the drones are just the newest iteration.

Huge difference. Mobility, and an added layer of disassociation for anyone actually asked to fire on American citizens.

Originally posted by Evil_Santa
But hey, keep trying to lynch Obama for breathing.

Meh. Maybe there is some of that going on. I think that those that are really pulling the strings certainly got a winning horse with Obama in terms of placating the public and having room to push the envelope on the legislation they are slamming through, but I don't think he is the one actually making these decisions though. He is just a tool like Bush before him, albeit a sharper one.

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LOL, she is high as hell. Bush wouldn't have been impeached. What an r-tard.

LOL.

Bush should have been impeached for war crimes, war profiteering, election rigging, incredible incompetence, and about a dozen other things I can't be bothered to dredge up. Impeachment was "off the table." Why? Maybe he had dirt on everyone from Dick Cheney's pervasive spying, maybe everyone's a crook and they like having someone with less scruples than they've got because it makes them feel safer -- who knows?

Obama should be impeached over the Drones -- it's a new tech way of committing extrajudicial assassination -- and I'm sick of the litmus test for what we should or shouldn't do as a nation being based on "it's cheaper and it could be preventing a future 9/11." It's the wrong-headed concept that you can eliminate the opposition; in this case to our military support of cheap labor and resources for multinational corporations -- any other view of our military industrial complex makes no sense out of the reality.

Obama won't be impeached over something sensible -- it will be over something incredibly dumb -- like perhaps an affair.

But whoever thought Bush would be impeached by now is kind of a very, very silly person because they weren't paying attention during the Bush presidency. They probably constantly say; "I'm not a racist." Anyone who thinks Obama is a socialist is probably a person who just reads book covers and not the content in-between.

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Kudos for your bipartisan attack!
Yeah, it's hard to believe that the Dems and Repugs aren't in bed with each other when their "bi-partisan" bills are like the NDAA.

As long as you didn't say you were a Libertarian and "above it all". Crooks on the right and left are just crooks -- and they throw out Abortion or Gun Control so that 50% can be angry at the other 50%. But we are in a morass of Corporate control of our elections and our government's policies. There isn't any way 300 million people can work together WITHOUT a government -- so the debate needs to be; "how do we clean this mess up?" It starts with election reform -- no solution that says; "put them in jail" will work because the people crooks hired run our judicial system. The best you can get is a "look the other way and sound busy" Eric Holder.

The only thing that would make things worse is "less government oversight". Big Banks and Big Energy can do what they want -- but it wouldn't help a thing if your Auto Mechanic started dumping the refuse from an oil change down the sewer.

I just don't see anything improving until the system breaks. And there are so many bad ways things can go from there. If the super wealthy just decided to make a fair system again - they could do it overnight. However, they've been getting away with everything for decades -- they don't think anything bad can happen to them.

Until "Anonymous" hacks a drone and uses it against the Oligarchs, or the "way up the ladder" becomes kidnapping rich kids like it has in many Latin American countries -- the corruption that is our system will continue.

Obama isn't the problem -- he's merely implementing the policies that are already there. Better drones than invasions of our troops -- but Better would be not to invade at all. It's not our business nor about protecting us. That's just the excuse. There was more "al Qaeda" in South Florida than Afghanistan.