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Topic started on 11-2-2013 @ 07:57 AM by Corruption Exposed

Doctors call for Dr David Kelly inquest to resume

www.telegraph.co.uk

A group of doctors which has been investigating the death of government scientist Dr David Kelly wrote to the Chief Coroner today calling for his inquest to be resumed and the suicide verdict re-examined.

In a letter to Judge Peter Thornton QC, they said there had been ''deficiencies in legal processes'' which meant Dr Kelly's inquest had never been formally closed, no final death certificate had been issued and no cause of death had been confirmed by a coroner.

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Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
The Murder of Dr David Kelly
Dr David Kelly, inquest refused
Revisiting the case of Dr. David Kelly

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 07:57 AM by Corruption Exposed

I have always believed the circumstances of his death to be suspicious especially if you consider the background of this man and his actions leading up to his death.

Many, including myself, believe that his exposure of the lies that helped lead to the Iraq war was the reason for his death and that very powerful people are doing everything they can to keep this quiet. I am surprised that these doctors are willing to suggest that the inquest be resumed.

Hopefully there will finally be justice for Dr Kelly due to the obvious inconsistencies surrounding his death, regrettably I am highly doubtful anything good will come of this due to the people behind the scenes who may have had a part in his "suicide".

His "suicide" has been covered in great deal on ATS so I have provided some links to some helfpful threads for those who are unfamilar with Dr Kelly and his story.

www.telegraph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

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reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 08:12 AM by Freeborn

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There should be a full and open enquiry into all the events etc surrounding Dr Kelly's death.

There are far too many inconsistencies and anomalies in the official version of events - the implications and repercussions of a conspiracy are so far reaching that the truth needs to be established beyond doubt, even if it means absolving Blair or any of his cronies of any wrong doing.

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 08:20 AM by micpsi

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The reason he was killed was that he had written a book about his work as a UN biological weapons inspector containing secrets highly embarassing to the Blair government. The book was about to be published. MI5 agents removed his computer containing all the book files within hours of his death. Scotland Yard created a file investigating his death hours before Kelly was even reported missing...... No doubt it employs clairvoyant detectives.

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 08:22 AM by CJCrawley

I doubt very much a scientist of his stature and evident learning would choose to do away with himself by cutting his wrist with a small knife and swallowing some co-proxamol tablets

........even IF he were suicidal, of which there was no indication.

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 09:45 AM by SOLIDSNAKE101

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Thanks for posting

YouTube Link

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reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 10:42 AM by Corruption Exposed

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I also agree that the whole situation should be analyzed, but the inquest has previously been refused and I fear that these Doctor's calls to resume the investigation will fall on deaf ears.

Hopefully this will get enough media attention where they will have no choice but to proceed, but as I previously said I am highly doubtful due to previous attemtps to have this properly looked into. The logical part of me leaves me no choice but to believe this will be supressed, yet again.

It's like everyone knows about it, but there isn't anything we can do about it.

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reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 10:56 AM by Corruption Exposed

reply to post by SOLIDSNAKE101

Thanks for the video

I will view it later on today after work.

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 11:12 AM by Freeborn

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If they don't agree to another open inquiry then more and more people are going to believe that evidence is being suppressed and that there is indeed a conspiracy of some sort.

But if there was a conspiracy then surely it is infinately better for those involved that the general public merely believe that 'something' probably occurred rather than confirming the duplicity and active participation of Secret Services, Senior Civil Servants, Politicians etc.

The ramifications of such a revelation could be devastating for the 'establishment' whose primary concern is maintaining the status quo and the continuation of the current system that they exploit to the extreme.

As a result I very much doubt any political administration would agree to an open and transparent inquiry regardless of political affiliation or who the inquiry might condemn.

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 11:30 AM by Corruption Exposed

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The ramifications of such a revelation could be devastating for the 'establishment' whose primary concern is maintaining the status quo and the continuation of the current system that they exploit to the extreme.

As a result I very much doubt any political administration would agree to an open and transparent inquiry regardless of political affiliation or who the inquiry might condemn.

Once again I agree, if this were to proceed, it would most likely be a farce just like the 911 Commission Report and several other investigations into other events riddled with inconsistencies.

I believe you are from the UK, so you would know better than I would how they would plan on handling this to distract the people.

Perhaps we will have another long, drawn out investigation just to "confirm" the previous findings?

In my opinion that would be the best way for those who are trying to hide certain findings to proceed.

I don't agree with it though...

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 11:36 AM by SOLIDSNAKE101

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by SOLIDSNAKE101

Thanks for the video

I will view it later on today after work.

You're welcome

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 12:18 PM by Freeborn

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The thing is people tend to have an already pre-determined opinion of what happened, as is evident by some of the replies so far in this thread.
I'm not criticising people for this and understand why they have done so.
There are some glaring omissions and questions that arise from The Hutton Report.
www.fas.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
But those opinions could easily cloud their judgement of any future Inquiry - no matter what evidence is supplied there will be those who will always choose to believe that Dr Kelly died as a result of some sort of government / 'establishment' assassination and that there is a conspiracy to suppress the truth - and there are those who will believe the official version of events regardless of contradictory evidence.

I suspect that the findings of any future Inquiry would have to be overwhelming to convince those of either camp that their previous viewpoints had been incorrect.

And there is always the possibility that there simply isn't the evidence to prove exactly what happened to Dr Kelly.

Personally I don't believe that The Hutton Inquiry provides the whole truth and that there are many conflicting medical opinions, contradictory evidence and unanswered questions and that there should be another full and open judicial Inquiry.
However, I don't think there is enough evidence to say that there was / is definately some sort of government / 'establishment' conspiracy - I genuinely don't know

But if the conspiracy goes as deep as some suggest, and I stress IF, then the ramifications could be so far reaching that it could actually be the catalyst for radical reform within many of the UK's institutions.

And for that reason I suspect the 'real truth' will never be relieved until those involved are consigned to tomorrow's history books.

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 12:54 PM by Rob37n

Sadly Dr David Kelly's death will be added to the list of famous conspiracy deaths, JFK, RFK, MLK, Princess Diana. We all know something was wrong with the circumstances of his death and the subsequent cover-up, but the truth will never be found out. TPTB, politicians, and the rich are above the law that binds the rest of us in servitude and fear. It is not in their interests for the truth to be known, hence it will never be revealed.

Nothing will come of these doctors valiant attempts to find out the truth. Dr Kelly was murdered plain and simple by elements of the British military on the orders of someone in the British government at the time to cover up the lies, obfuscation, and embarrassing facts for the Labour Party that took us into an illegal war, a war OF terror on the people of Iraq rather than a war ON terror. But this will never be established openly in a court of law, nobody will ever stand trial for their actions, and nobody will ever be held to account in any way shape or form.

Those responsible for his death see themselves are the good guys, sadly they are very deluded in their beliefs.

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reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 01:36 PM by Liberal1984

If they killed Kelly, then how many other people? Robert Cook’s untimely death also occurred in suspicious circumstances…

But. for example, how did he die? The post mortem took two days "to establish whether the Livingston MP had died from an illness or injuries sustained in the fall", and the cause of death was eventually given as'hypertensive heart disease'. No mention was made of any injuries to the head and neck. Yet most early press reports indicated that, after having had a heart attack, he had fallen down a ridge and had broken his neck. The spokesman for RAF Kinloss air rescue centre said that Robin Cook had been winched up to the helicopter from "... close to the summit. That part of Ben Stack is very steep, monster steep and very rocky." I reckon it'd be a bit surprising if there were no head or neck injuries at all if a body fell, as a dead-weight, down that rocky ridge. But the official story was sudden death by heart disease. shaphan.typepad.com...

philosophers-stone.co.uk...
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It’s worth noting Robin Cook was the only government Cabinet member to have seriously opposed the war in Iraq. He resigned but unlike Claire Short did so out of conviction, rather than a desire to save his reputation from media ridicule & criticism for not living up to her-his previous threats.

Claire Short is nothing but a member of the false opposition to the Iraq War, but that’s another story. So in effect Robin Cook is the only man to have sincerely resigned.

There is also a question whether the previous Labour leader (John Smith) was murdered to make way for Tony Blair.
Here is a list of people assassinated by “disease”
www.whale.to...

And an old discussion here…
www.godlikeproductions.com...

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 02:00 PM by TrueBrit

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I completely agree with your assessment of the situation at hand, and like you, I believe that Dr Kelly's death ought to have been very carefully investigated in the first place, bearing in mind how important his work was. I was under the impression that not only was he the one with his finger on the pulse of what was, and was not going on in Iraq and so on, but also what was happening elsewhere, with regard to the proliferation of WMD materials and completed weapons systems. He had an awful lot of dangerous knowledge, even if you ignore the potential smoking guns regarding the legitimacy of the contents of the dossiers that bought the UK into the war, and the realities regarding the presence of WMD or initiatives created to develop them.

Even disregarding what he would have had on all that, he also had to have extensive knowledge of Western techniques, projects, and so on, in the field of warhead engineering... A man with a skull full of dangerous knowledge. The death of such a man should have been a matter of extreme and intrusive scrutiny, to the level where close relatives of Kelly should have been appalled by it, if only to ensure that no stone was left unturned, in ensuring that his death was not as a result of questioning under drugs by terrorists. Of course, the same examinations which might have illuminated a government hit, would be just as useful in uncovering the possibility of his having been murdered by a terror group.

In actual fact, the only possible result of NOT investigating his death to the fullest possible extent would be what we have today, that being, a whole bunch of different departments, groups, conspiracists and what have you have unanswered, and very fair questions for all involved in the course of events thus far.

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 02:14 PM by Freeborn

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I agree that the deaths of both John Smith and Robin Cook are suspicious - both were very rare indeed being politicians of conviction and went to their graves with their intengrity intact.

But as with Dr Kelly we must examine ALL the facts, provided they are available, and then make a fair and considered assessment with an open mind.

And with the Dr Kelly it is important not to make one's judgement based on one's opinion of the righteousness of the war in Iraq - obviously it's a consideration - but just because one believes that the war in Iraq was based on lies etc does not necessarily mean that Dr Kelly was murdered because of any revelations he may or may not have been about to disclose etc.

reply posted on 11-2-2013 @ 02:34 PM by Murgatroid

Another good thread is this one that discusses the cover-up being used to keep all medical records and post Mortem evidence secret.

Below is a post from that thread:

Originally posted by franspeakfree
There isn't a week that goes by without me thinking about this man, he reported to his friends and family that 'they' were going to kill him and make it look like a suicide. Tony Blair is the devil in my book, if he didn't order it he knew about it.

You see Dr Kelly knew what was going to happen in Iraq so he decided to speak out about it, he was the instigator to the government 'sexed' up WMD claims, the BBC television network ran in 2003, they had to silence him quickly to maintain relations with America.

"This isn't a conspiracy its a murder, anyone who's researched the matter only a little bit can soon find this out. Dr Kelly is one of many who have been murdered by our own government for knowing too much harmful information about the lies & treason, it doesn't matter who is in power of our country they all act in exactly the same way, we are just the fools who pay for their games with our taxes."

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