Muslim fanatics spouting on British TV: Call for terror, murder and the torture of gay people

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posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 09:26 PM
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Today is a different world and majority of mankind are not human sacrificing or cannabalistic pagans. Majority are children of the book, and thus those radical islamists were wrong to slay anyone, and in the first place, without ANY authority whatsoever.

Atheists, espacially those whom have hurt or harm no one, have only yet to know our common Creator, on their own fre will and not the will of any mortal. In the barbaric past, they had resorted to arms to kill and slaughter, but today, they follow the rule of law and should not be harmed in any way, but offered the best opportunity to know the almighty, not by force, but by true religious faithfuls examples, whom may not be perfect, but are only trying their best.

We live in a time of peace, or at least attempts for peace with rule of law equal for all, unlike our ancestors whom faced barbarisms and bullying on a daily basis.

You can continue to cling on to your anti muslim views, just as the radical islamists do everyday, despite my efforts. It is your choice, your ignorances and delustions to live with. I cannot live your life for you.




posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101

You can continue to cling on to your anti muslim views, just as the radical islamists do everyday, despite my efforts. It is your choice, your ignorances and delustions to live with. I cannot live your life for you.



Please, continue to defend Islam. As a Muslim I would expect you to see no fault in a religion founded by a violent warlord who spread Islamic domination by the sword and enslaved women and children while doing so.

Please respect my right to differ without calling me ignorant and deluded.



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 01:52 AM
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Sadly, you ARE indeed ignorant, presumptous and deluded....and provened. I mean you no harm.

It is the truth that I am making my point here, because I am not a muslim. Only an insignificant nobody seeker, a searcher for answers, solutions, facts and realities, not from one single source, but a wide cross referencing spectrum of them to make an informed insight, of which, sadly, you do not seem to do.

Cheers.

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posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 02:39 AM
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Thats the way Ollncasino rolls. He argues that Muslims have always been violent by cherrypicking parts of the history that suits his agenda, yet he ignores what Christians did to the whole American continent, Australian continent, African continent etc.
Christianity was spread by sword, all religions were spread by sword.

This thread is no exception. He doesent care about gay people, he just posted another piece of news because radical Muslims are involved. Well guess what TROLL, im going to disappoint you now, Christian fanatics hate gays too.

HOMOPHOBIA is not exclusive to Muslim fanatics nor Muslims in general.

Read and learn:



Gay Pride March Banned in Serbia



The influential head of the Orthodox Church in Serbia had asked authorities to ban the march, calling the event a “tragicomic parade of shame” that insults the country’s Christian tradition.
Serbian news source B92 reported on a statement from Patriach Irinej that said the parade “casts a heavy moral shadow on Belgrade, on Serbia's longstanding Christian culture and the dignity of the family, as the basic unit of humanity.”

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VIOLENCE MARS CROATIAN GAY PRIDE PARADE



Croatia's society is still largely conservative and the powerful Roman Catholic Church has publicly branded homosexuality a "handicap" and a "perversion".

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Anti-Gay Law Stirs Fears in Russia



MOSCOW — St. Petersburg’s legislature passed a law on Wednesday aimed at eliminating what its backers called “propaganda” of homosexuality among minors, prompting fears among gay rights groups of an impending crackdown on their activities as other cities vowed to look into adopting similar measures.

Vitaly V. Milonov, the law’s principal drafter and an outspoken proponent of Russia’s Orthodox Church, who has referred to gay people as “perverts,” has accused gay rights activists of waging an aggressive campaign of conversion among Russia’s children with the backing of Western governments.

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posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101

Sadly, you ARE indeed ignorant, presumptous and deluded....and provened. I mean you no harm.

It is the truth that I am making my point here, because I am not a muslim. Only an insignificant nobody seeker, a searcher for answers, solutions, facts and realities, not from one single source, but a wide cross referencing spectrum of them to make an informed insight, of which, sadly, you do not seem to do.



My sources are the Koran, Canonical Hadith and the first biography written by a Muslim on Muhammad's life.

Sources do not get any more reliable than that.

You are not a Muslim? Perhaps that explains why you get so much early Islamic history wrong.


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posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by ArtooDetoo
Thats the way Ollncasino rolls. He argues that Muslims have always been violent by cherrypicking parts of the history that suits his agenda, yet he ignores what Christians did to the whole American continent, Australian continent, African continent etc.


I have pointed out that the founder of Islam was a violent warlord who

1. Enslaved women and children.
2. Kept at least one slave girl for himself and sold off the rest.
3. Allowed his men to rape captive women, with Allah's permission.
4. Raided caravans and killed guards.
5. Assassinated people who criticized him.
6. Spread Islamic domination by the sword (fighting major battles and besieging cities).
7. Seized Jewish land and property.
8. Forced Christians and Jews to pay tribute.
9. Executed POWs.

My sources for the above?

The Koran, Canonical Muslim Sunni Hadith and the first biography on Muhammad's life written by a devout Muslim.

It is no surprise that Islam is an aggressive and ill tolerant religion today.



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posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 10:42 AM
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I have pointed out that the founder of Islam was a violent warlord who 1. Enslaved women and children. 2. Kept at least one slave girl for himself and sold off the rest. 3. Allowed his men to rape captive women, with Allah's permission. 4. Raided caravans and killed guards. 5. Assassinated people who criticized him. 6. Spread Islamic domination by the sword (fighting major battles and besieging cities). 7. Seized Jewish land and property. 8. Forced Christians and Jews to pay tribute. 9. Executed POWs. My sources for the above? The Koran, Canonical Muslim Sunni Hadith and the first biography on Muhammad's life written by a devout Muslim. It is no surprise that Islam is an aggressive and ill tolerant religion today.
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Organized religion is nothing more than governance under the guise of spiritual purity.
All religion is this way.

The real issue is human nature.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 10:24 AM
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I would never defend Islam.

Nor would I defend any of the other 2,780 religions.

People do disgusting crap when they are deluded; it's the nature of religious dogma, not Islam.

What you're flagging Islam for is no worse than what the Jews did 1,000 times before them.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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Well if you go by religious texts the Christian God was a violent war lord.



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 11:19 AM
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Imagine for a minute that British citizens went on TV and called for the same things against Muslims.

What would the reaction from the media have been?



posted on Feb, 15 2013 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by ArtooDetoo
Thats the way Ollncasino rolls. He argues that Muslims have always been violent by cherrypicking parts of the history that suits his agenda, yet he ignores what Christians did to the whole American continent, Australian continent, African continent etc.


I have pointed out that the founder of Islam was a violent warlord who

1. Enslaved women and children.
2. Kept at least one slave girl for himself and sold off the rest.
3. Allowed his men to rape captive women, with Allah's permission.
4. Raided caravans and killed guards.
5. Assassinated people who criticized him.
6. Spread Islamic domination by the sword (fighting major battles and besieging cities).
7. Seized Jewish land and property.
8. Forced Christians and Jews to pay tribute.
9. Executed POWs.

My sources for the above?

The Koran, Canonical Muslim Sunni Hadith and the first biography on Muhammad's life written by a devout Muslim.

It is no surprise that Islam is an aggressive and ill tolerant religion today.



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Seriously, im not even going to respond to your post because all religions through history have commited the same attrocities you blame Muslims for..slavery, conquering,prostitution, raping etc, Christians have done it too..
The only thing that strikes me is, why do you make such a big deal out of someone conquering "Jewish" land and property? Why did you make it stand out in your post ? Isnt it the same as #6 in your post ? Is it more of a crime if you conquer "Jewish land" than any other land ?

The one who pays you for posting this crap is getting robbed, i would deff ask for my money back, because you suck at it.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by ArtooDetoo

Seriously, im not even going to respond to your post because all religions through history have commited the same attrocities you blame Muslims for..slavery, conquering,prostitution, raping etc, Christians have done it too..


Has the founding prophet of any other major religion enslaved women and children, executed POWs and allowed his soldiers to rape captive women?

Muhammad certainly did but I can't think of any others.

Perhaps you can enlighten me...

I won't hold my breath.



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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by ArtooDetoo

Seriously, im not even going to respond to your post because all religions through history have commited the same attrocities you blame Muslims for..slavery, conquering,prostitution, raping etc, Christians have done it too..


Has the founding prophet of any other major religion enslaved women and children, executed POWs and allowed his soldiers to rape captive women?

Muhammad certainly did but I can't think of any others.

Perhaps you can enlighten me...

I won't hold my breath.



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I think you need to do some research on the Jewish annihilation of the Amalekites under David.




posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by LightOrange

I think you need to do some research on the Jewish annihilation of the Amalekites under David.


I wasn't aware that David was the prophet who founded the Jewish religion.








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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 03:20 AM
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personally, I dont give a damn about muhammed, or islam or any of the debating going on about such. Its sickening that these people feel they have any right to demonize gay people or people who wish to change religions when they find out how full of it their religion is. Calling for torture, and murder on TV no less... Absolutely disgusting!


 
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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by LightOrange

I think you need to do some research on the Jewish annihilation of the Amalekites under David.


I wasn't aware that David was the prophet who founded the Jewish religion.

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Were you aware that Moses and Abraham were? I'm sure I don't have to provide you with a list of THEIR morally abhorrent behaviour..



"Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

(Numbers 31:16-18)


"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)
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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by LightOrange

Were you aware that Moses and Abraham were? I'm sure I don't have to provide you with a list of THEIR morally abhorrent behaviour..


I wasn't aware that both Moses and Abraham were violent warlords who enslaved women and children, took cities by the sword and massacred POWs. Disgusting behavior.

Two wrongs don't make a right, however.

For instance, it remains an iconic example of double think that a religion that was founded by an extremely violent and intolerant warlord and still has so many intolerant and extremely violent followers today calls itself the religion of peace.

But then perhaps the word Islam has lost something in the translation?


Islam translates from Arabic not merely as 'peace' but as "peace, purity, submission and obedience"

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Throughout its history, non Muslims have had to submit to Islam.

I don't want to.


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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

I wasn't aware that both Moses and Abraham were violent warlords who enslaved women and children, took cities by the sword and massacred POWs. Disgusting behavior.


Abraham, not so much. He was just an arrogant lunatic who tried to justify killing his own son with the "Divine will of God". Later, he went to tell everyone that his blood line was divine and "chosen", and that God rejected anyone not of his bloodline because only his family were the chosen people and anyone else was less worthy.

Moses, however, did all of the above. All males were slaughtered, no exceptions, not even for infants. Women were kept as servants or forced to marry Moses' followers unless they were already married to others and had been "tainted" by having slept with the men of the tribes that they slaughtered, in which case they were put to death. This left the majority of females that the Jewish men were marrying, raping, and forcing to bear children to be women under the age of 15.



Two wrongs don't make a right, however.


Exactly. Which is why all mainstream religion is repulsive. They are the exclusive propagators of genital mutilation, suicide bombing, execution of their people for "sex crimes" ranging anywhere from homosexuality to infidelity to using a condom. The list goes on and on, really, and practices of these otherwise-perceived strictly immoral deeds are carried out by all factions of organized religion.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 07:06 AM
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Death threats to UK's top Muslim MP who voted for gay marriage



Britain's most senior Muslim MP has received death threats after voting in favour of gay marriage.

But moderate Muslim groups have condemned the threats.

Mr Khan was among 400 MPs, five of them Muslim, who voted in favour of the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill at the beginning of this month.



posted on Mar, 5 2013 @ 10:08 AM
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jews are the miniority for the entire world, look how much they can %&^*& on a daily basis, numbers dont mean anything ,,, hitler(half jew) started with a speech, anything can snowball if left unchecked.





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