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Muslim fanatics spouting on British TV: Call for terror, murder and the torture of gay people

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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 01:06 AM
You cannot expect the police to act, they are far too busy covering up their internal corruption, and targeting motorists for revenue generating infractions.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 01:41 AM
I feel we need to be mindfull of the motives for allowing such things to be broadcast at this time. The legalities and all aside it is all part of a bigger tactic to encourage Joe Public to have ill opinions of Muslims. Joe Public pays for the wars and genocide going on to benefit our societies 'elite' and they would have a problem if we saw them as people like ourselves. There is a tremendous campaign in our media to encourage racism, I am outraged that on many news sites the comment sections allow despicable things to be said about immigrants and other races and religions yet my comments similar to this one get removed without any explanation.
This crap is being broadcast deliberately to influence opinions, doesn't matter if it is legal or not the damage is done and the casualties along the way aren't important.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 04:50 AM
Read through this thread, and I think there may be a misunderstanding on what is going on. The dailymail is also not exactly the best source for this type of thing.

As I understand it , channels in the UK are regularly fined for breaching broadcast regulations. For example TFI Friday has had a number of faux pas resulting in fines, as has various comedians etc ... When a band like the Sex Pistols comes on your show and says something inappropriate live, the channel is fined for the misconduct.

Now I can't speak for all of the channels involved, but PeaceTV for example has multiple speakers who don't live in the United Kingdom and are not broadcasting from a local area, thus the police are next to powerless. Some countries have responded by banning those channels and holding them responsible for their content, but the UK police themselves wouldn't be involved in that either.

The daily mail has been implying that there is some kind of reluctance to handle television channels, but there is fundamental difference to a local mosque sending out this message and a channel. If the speaker / producer is not a local UK resident (as many of them aren't) they essentially have no one to prosecute unless the channel says they support that hateful message.

Essentially these channels are small, disorganized, and have incredibly small audiences. Without knowning the number of instances per year, the location of those instances, it's hard to say if police could act. In fact, you would statistically expect to see more instances of police and government reacting to more widely watched programs expressing more widely held views. A channel 4 presenter saying all Muslims should be ejected from the country is going to reach more people by the order of several million. An obsure Muslim channel is simply not going to have the same impact.

To be clear, I'm not supporting the UKs stance on free speech etc ... In fact, I'm not saying anything about it particularly. I just don't percieve this situation as some political public statement about Muslims (as much as the daily mail would like you to believe it is) or some minority ruling the majority type thing.

The examples simply aren't equivolent. I would expect minorities to invoke legal protections more than the majority out of pure statistics, but this isn't even that argument, nor is it an argument about Muslim opinion in the UK. It's simply the UK government not reacting to minority channels and the daily mail making news out of the growing fear of Muslim populations in Europe and the UK.

The UK either needs to fully endorse free speech, or hold media and channels up to those in place standards. However, contrary to some cries in this thread ... no mainstream UK channel to my knowledge has been closed down for enabling a controversial speaker. Why would we expect swift action to be taken against obscure little watched channels broadcast in other languages?

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 05:30 AM
The fact that they have to resort to fear displays they have little truth and have lost the race of the truth at the end, its also evidence of a shrinking religion because they have no demonstration of the truth. I predict it will be a extinct religion in the short term using fear to maintain which eventually will fail.

The attitude and ways based on Universal fails finds them spiritually bankrupt. The God liberty leads to slavery unto license upon the spirit of mankind and their fruits are displayed by their failed states by the rule of fear.

By their fruits you shall know them and is quite Luciferian operating by fear and by license in spiritual tyranny under a disguise.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 05:51 AM

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by billdadobbie
bet this falls under a hate crime PHONE THE POLICE somebody

The Public Order Act 1986 section 5 outlaws threatening, abusive and insulting words or behaviour.

When John Terry, the England football team captain, was alleged to have said something racist to another footballer, the police maintained they had a legal duty to investigate the case because someone had telephoned them and complained.

John Terry to face criminal charges over alleged racist abuse

Yet apparently, calling for the torture of homosexuals or the death of those who insult Muhammad appears to not be a hate crime?

That's because there's one law for them and another for us. The police are always ignoring stuff they do, and even covering things up.

So much for "muslims are peaceful". Islam is a vile evil religion.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 06:02 AM
I am not agree all Muslim cast is bad human, but i hate political crime, because in that case, (exemple) laden attack on america - death 2,996 and Injured More than 6,000

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 07:04 AM
You Poms need to do something about your prostrating rag heads over in ye merry olde England... before it's too late.

Perhaps you could look to one of your footballing nemesis, the Dutch, for some ideas...
edit on 12-2-2013 by CristobalColonic because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 07:10 AM
reply to post by ollncasino

I'm getting tired of 'gays' always crying on these forums!!!!

Grow some balls and go get yourself laid with a girl.... then you wont need to be afraid of the Muslims!!!!

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 07:26 AM
reply to post by sevens8

Are you suggesting christianity is any less fear driven? If your ideas have any truth to them then christianity may fall even before islam does.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 07:36 AM
reply to post by CristobalColonic

You Poms need to do something about your prostrating rag heads over in ye merry olde England... before it's too late.

Definition of PROSTRATE
: stretched out with face on the ground in adoration or submission; also: lying flat
: completely overcome and lacking vitality, will, or power to rise
: trailing on the ground

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 07:51 AM
As usual.

More evidence that if one lives by the rules of islam, persecution of non-believers and sinners will follow, naturally I must be a racist nazi for poiting this out.

Now..... Can I get an Allah au akbar?

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 07:52 AM
British freedom of speech laws were made for british people sharia law was made for sand people the 2 dont mix but some idiot decided to mix them ... all this is expected if nothing is done to seperate the 2 by say 21 miles of ocean the pot will boil over

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 10:06 AM
I have not studied Islam enough to make statements as to what Muslims stand for/ against and so on and so forth. But I can say that I'm thankful I live in a country whose forefathers had the wisdom to institute separation of church and state. How many of these Islamic countries are technically under the authority of a religious leader? Look at the Holy Roman Empire and the atrocities they committed in the name of God.

Personally, I don't believe either Christianity or Islam really means to execute or torture people. It's probably misinterpretations by religious leaders to keep the people under their control.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 10:14 AM
I've studied Christianity, Judaism, and Islam relatively extensively and there is a lot of information that most people do not seem to know. What these extremists are doing and saying is not really in line with the teachings of their religion, and rather they are misconstruing them. I used to think that Islam called for Jihad against any non-Muslim, but now that I have educated myself on the religion, I understand this is not the case. A true Muslim is not supposed to initiate any sort of attack of any kind. Anyone ever wonder why Saladin did not kill any of the Christians after he sacked Jerusalem during the Crusades? That may have had more to do with his ethics than religion, but still, he practiced Islam and led an all Muslim army.

Now with that said, there are quite a few reasons why I believe Islam to be an amalgamation of Judaism and Christianity, and I believe the doctrine has been misconstrued and turned into a religion. If you study the history of Islam you will find that Muhammed, before he started even thinking about his own doctrine, was drawn to the Christians and Jews in Mecca, and he learned about their faiths. This was his first real introduction into monotheism at all, as Mecca at that time was sort of like Sodom or Corinth as depicted in the Old and New Testaments. A place where most people were worshipping idols.

Anyway, there is evidence in Muhammed's own sayings and teachings that indicate his understanding of these other two religions he so admired was limited. I find it hard to believe that someone who is a prophet would not understand the teachings that their new religion is based on. At one time it is clear that Muhammed thought the Holy Trinity of Christianity meant that Christians were polytheists, and that he also thought Jesus was born to a virgin because of an actual physical act with a heavenly being. Anyway, Islam does not hold that Jesus is divine, and they say he was a prophet, sort of like the Jews.

However, a big problem lies in the fact that the Jews do not accept Jesus' virgin birth, while Islam does. So how is it that someone who supposedly understands these religions enough to change them can sit there and accept the virgin birth of Jesus, while denouncing his Christian status as Heavenly, which was the whole point and meaning of the virgin birth? I know that those who are not religious may not read this post, but my main point is that Muhammed did not really know what he was talking about, and this is clear in other examples found in the teachings of Islam as well. Christianity was a fluid extension of Judaism, while Islam was nothing more than a picking and choosing of certain portions of these other two faiths, and a mixing of them to create a new religion.
So I hold that a true man of God, who obviously based his religion off of those already present, would at least understand these foundational faiths to some degree before he attempted to change them in ways that do not make sense. A person who was truly a prophet would not have done this.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 11:00 AM
This is a hate crime just like any other, and should be treated as such. The religious preference of those involved should have no bearing what so ever on the fact that they are inciting murder, torture and humiliation. Should their requests come to fruition then the authorities should be considered complicit for not investigating the matter.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 11:06 AM

Originally posted by Pinke
Read through this thread, and I think there may be a misunderstanding on what is going on. The dailymail is also not exactly the best source for this type of thing.

The Daily Mail lifted the article almost word for word from the Telegraph.

The Telegraph was reporting rulings made by Ofcom, the communications watchdog.

There is nothing inaccurate or untruthful in this article.

edit on 12-2-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 11:13 AM
reply to post by JiggyPotamus

That was a good post and a good read

Just goes to show, really, that all religions are corrupted by man. You touch upon the concept of the Trinity, but that in itself only came about around 2-300 years after Jesus death and not everyone agreed with it then, leading to the schism in the churches that resulted in the Orthodox and Catholic divide.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 11:15 AM
Check this lot out, seems to show the truth about the muslems
And then there are the gangs of muslems raping young children at will , seems to be a religion filled with love

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 11:24 AM
reply to post by ollncasino

Well of course they are, they are being consistent with the teachings of Islam.
What did you expect?

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 11:35 AM
Pretty Ironic that a radio station called Peace is allowing this stuff to be broadcast.

What will be the excuse, that it was used in a debate and they are showing both sides (but only air the hate stuff).

The problem is that these radio stations are ran by what they term moderates which is Radical Islam code for them being actually totally radical but playing a moderate role to fool the Kuffar enemy. These stations will happily blast this stuff out until checked on and then claim ignorance

Its about time the PC allowance was stopped and radicals like these shut down in an instant, no 3 strikes and you are out, its hate speech and they know the rules but choose like many radicals to push it as far as they can.

What the silly right on PC folk fail to acknowledge is that this is part of a greater picture, individually not massively noticeable and pretty unreported but when you piece together the Radical Islam patrols in London supported by more than just the few people shown but never acknowledge publicly by the Police as such and hate speech on the airwaves, the Racial banner wavers, street sermons, large scale pamphlet distribution and numerous other activity then the picture is a lot more radical than it first seems.

While all this is going on the nice fluffy commuter belt / lentil loving folk sit there saying how its only a few unconnected individuals doing these things, it must be nice to be so far out of reality, away from all the real issues. Here on planet Earth those of us who live in rough area's like East London watch the daily increase in thugs and stalls setup to preach Radicalised teachings to the locals and ESPECIALLY the children, we get the chants and off the cuff remarks at non Muslims.

All this NOT unconnected, its coordinated at Mosques, places of learning and so on, the same places 7/11 was set up from.

Its time to say NO...We don't want Sharia, we don't want these patrol and we don't want the hatred..

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