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Acts 15
6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them.
(The revolt within a revolt that took place inside of the besieged Jerusalem in 70CE undoubtedly represented a fight between the Gnostics and the Pauline Christians.)
One thing is for sure. We'll soon know. It will be interesting to watch. My gut feeling is that an East wind takes away the harvest. Mankind starves and Peter repents. The end then comes for the commerce system as the money fails as well. Babylon falls. Iran is the East Wind. 1000 years of peace follows as mankind recovers. The phoenix rises from the ashes.
Josephus, Life, 75, p. 20 of Whiston’s Translation
... as I [Joseph Bar Mathias] came back, I saw many captives crucified; and remembered three of them as my former acquaintance. I was very sorry at this in my mind, and went with tears in my eyes to Titus, and told him of them; so he immediately commanded them to be taken down, and to have the greatest care taken of them, in order to their recovery; yet two of them died under the physician’s hands, while the third recovered.
The Gospel of Barnabas has the incident of Joseph, but, his name is Abarimathia not Arimathea.
Barnabas 217, 8.
... but by means of Nicodemus and Joseph of Abarimathia they obtained from the governor the body... to bury it.
“He descended into the cave. So, for two days he continued in hiding. On the third, his secret was revealed by a woman who had been with them. The death of J. was found to be a fiction, it became known that he was alive.”
This is a description of a resurrection after three days in a cave. No, J. is not Jesus, but Josephus. This is from the account of the fall of Jotapata where Josephus hides in a cave for three days before he was found out by a captured woman who knew of their hiding place. He arose from the cave. After a short time he ascended to the right hand of the Father, Vespasian, the Emperor. Josephus went on to live in the mansion of his Lord.
The Texts
But, finding every spot guarded on his account and no means of eluding detection, he descended again into the cave. So, for two days he continued in hiding. On the third, his secret was betrayed by a woman who had been with them. [War 3. 8. 1.]
But when time revealed the truth and all that had really happened at Jotapata, when the death of Josephus was found to be a fiction, it became known that he was alive and in Roman hands... the demonstrations of wrath at his still being alive were as loud as the former expressions of affection when he was believed to be dead.” [War 3. 9. 6.]
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Just because it's in the bible does NOT make it true! I could sit down and rewrite the bible in a completely different way if I wanted, all it would take is time, something they had plenty of 2,000 years ago.
You believe the bible is hermetically sealed correct? Let's take a look at the origins of that term.
The word hermetic comes from the name of the Greek god Hermes, via the vocabulary of alchemy. The alchemists invented a process for making a glass tube airtight, which was used in distillation. The process used a secret seal whose invention was attributed to the legendary patron of alchemy, Hermes Trismegistos.
Wiki
So It derives from the Greek god Hermes. Let's take a look at who Hermes is.
He was protector and patron of travelers, herdsmen, thieves,[2] orators and wit, literature and poets, athletics and sports, invention and trade.[3] In some myths he is a trickster, and outwits other gods for his own satisfaction or the sake of humankind.
Wiki
So your "hermetical seal" is based on Hermes, the god of THIEVES, ORATORS, WIT, AND POETRY. So basically you're basing your entire assumption around a god that protected thieves and poets who is known as a trickster. The bible is a pretty piece of poetry isn't it? And it has tricked you pretty well.
Paul is called Hermes at one point, which points to him being a thief and an orator of wit and trickery.
You're basing your entire argument around the ASSUMPTION that the bible is hermetically sealed. What an ignorant stand-point you have.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Oh, so since the Vatican tried to avoid it last time means they can't be blamed for choosing peter this time. Sorry, but that doesn't make a lick of sense. Their past decisions have no bearing on what they do in the here and now. If they elect Peter as the next Pope, who is known as Peter the Roman in his hometown, then they are INTENTIONALLY fulfilling the "prophecy". There is no other reason for them to elect Peter, AT ALL. What don't you understand about that?
Or is it all "god's will" as you put it? LOL So even if all the cardinals didn't want to vote for Peter, they would still be forced to do it? Come on! Use your head dude!edit on 12-2-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Oh, so since the Vatican tried to avoid it last time means they can't be blamed for choosing peter this time. Sorry, but that doesn't make a lick of sense. Their past decisions have no bearing on what they do in the here and now. If they elect Peter as the next Pope, who is known as Peter the Roman in his hometown, then they are INTENTIONALLY fulfilling the "prophecy". There is no other reason for them to elect Peter, AT ALL. What don't you understand about that?
Or is it all "god's will" as you put it? LOL So even if all the cardinals didn't want to vote for Peter, they would still be forced to do it? Come on! Use your head dude!edit on 12-2-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
What are you trying to say here? The fact is Hermes was a god who protected thieves and poets, you're not looking past that are you?
Why would Luke associate Paul with that kind of god? Take a guess.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
So why are you standing by the prophecy as if it's going to be fulfilled whether the cardinals like it or not? You imply that if Peter is elected, that means the prophecy was fulfilled. I agree, except for one small thing, it will be self-fulfilled.
Isaiah 11:11
In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.
Here is God's judgment predicted ahead for us to clearly read.
The Prophecy ... Ezekiel 4:4-6
"Then God said to Ezekiel,
'Now lie on your left side for 390 days
to show Israel will be punished for 390 years
by captivity and doom.
Each day you lie there represents
a year of punishment ahead for Israel.
Afterwards, turn over and lay on your right side
for 40 days, to signify the years of Judah's punishment.
Each day will represent one year . . .'"
(Ezekiel 4:4-6)
390 days Judgment against the 10 northern tribes 'Israel'
+ 40 days Judgment against the 2 southern tribes 'Judah'
= 430 years Judgment against the nation of Israel
Fulfillment
430 years of judgment determined against nation Israel
- 70 years fulfilled during the Babylonian captivity
= 360 years remaining in judgment against the nation of Israel
Where are the 360 years?
"And after all this, if you do not obey Me,
then I (God) will punish you seven times more for your sins."
(Leviticus 26:18)
"Then, if you walk contrary to Me,
and are not willing to obey Me,
I (God) will bring on you seven times more plagues,
according to your sins."
(Leviticus 26:21)
"And after all this,
if you do not obey Me,
but walk contrary to Me,
then I (God) also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I will chastise you seven times for your sins.:
(Leviticus 26:27-28)
"I (God) will scatter you among the nations
and draw a sword after you;
your Land shall be desolate
and your cities waste."
(Leviticus 26:33)
This is a factor of 7 (7X)
360 Remaining years of judgment
x 7 The prophetic '7X' factor
= 2,520 Years of judgment remained against nation Israel
360 day years for prophecies, then add the appropriate 'leap months' to the schedule. So, the easiest way to unravel this prophecy is to first convert this prophecy into days ...
2,520 years
x 360 days
= 907,200 days of judgment remained against nation Israel after the Babylonian captivity
907,200 days ÷ 365.25 days = 2,483.78 years of God's judgment remained
Now have another look.
606 B.C Israel taken into Babylonian captivity
- 70 Years for 70 years
= 536 B.C. End of first 70 years of judgment
+ 2483 Years Now add the 2,483 years remaining in this judgment
+ 1 Year Add 1 year because there is no "0" B.C. or A.D.
= 1948 AD! End of judgment against nation Israel