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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
Sure, because Paul could have NEVER gotten a hold of some of Jesus' teachings while he was murdering his followers, right? You are completely ignoring the possibility of Paul being a fraud even when the evidence points toward it.
Also, just because I believe in Jesus in a different way than you doesn't mean I deserve eternal torture. Or does it?edit on 16-2-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
ETA: If to know Jesus is to know yourself (I agree 100% with that) then what makes you think we aren't equal with him? You're doublethinking again.
If the Son is all of us, then why do you believe the term includes Jesus alone? Didn't I say something about us all being the "Son" that Paul was speaking of in one of his epistles? Didn't you reject that notion? So why are you agreeing with it now? Doublethinking again I see.edit on 16-2-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by WhoKnows100
It is unfair! Tell me, how does 75-80 years on this planet equal to forever in hell? How is that fair? How do they even compare?
To throw someone in a cell and throw away the key is unfair, completely unfair. I thought god was supposed to be fair? So how does 75-80 years equal eternal torture?
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
So all the pagan holidays and pagan themes in the bible, especially Acts, doesn't point to Paul gearing them toward pagans? Come on! The OP and subsequent posts are FULL of pagan themes and names! What do you mean it wasn't geared towards pagans?
God is so holy and so unfathomably majestic that being in His presence would cause us to feel like we were on fire. Being in Heaven forever would be torment to us...unless we became a part of Him. And that only happens through the redemptive work of Christ.
Originally posted by Snsoc
reply to post by windword
Because we're fallen.
Not everyone are the children of God. "You are of your father, the devil," Jesus said-to the people of God! (John 8:44)
Does that mean you believe that I sinned before I was born? Is this life, then, a punishment, a second chance or hell?
So why did Paul bother trying to be "all thing to all people" if so many are of their father, the devil?
Have you been given the gift of discernment of who's daddy is who's?
Why are there 2 fathers of the people of planet Earth, if there is only one "God the Father"?
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
So all the pagan holidays and pagan themes in the bible, especially Acts, doesn't point to Paul gearing them toward pagans? Come on! The OP and subsequent posts are FULL of pagan themes and names! What do you mean it wasn't geared towards pagans?
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
You're right, I can't, but that doesn't take away the fact that Christianity (the same one Paul founded) is full of pagan symbolism, including stories in the bible.
John the Baptist' s birth starts off with Zecharia burning incense. Burning incense was what Egyptians did while worshiping their gods, they also burned it and used myrrh while preparing bodies for the afterlife. That coincides with the three wise men (pagan) bringing Jesus frankincense and myrrh.
John the Baptist's death is preceded by Salome dancing for Herod. There were many rituals that involved dancing in paganism. That's only a few of the examples, I could pull up many more if I need to.edit on 17-2-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)edit on 17-2-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by EnochWasRight
So now you agree with the pagan mysteries? Didn't you JUST ask me to provide proof that Paul mentioned paganism in order to further YOUR case? Looks like you did a 180 real quick and switched to my side.... weird.
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
If Paul was an enemy of Christ, his message would have been the Pagan Mysteries and geared toward the Babylon system of Rome.
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
The Bible is the thread of truth revealing this mystery.
16.3 "You were in Heaven but its secrets had not yet been revealed to you;
and a worthless mystery you knew. This you made known to women, in
the hardness of your hearts. And through this mystery the women and the
men cause evil to increase on the Earth."
16.4 Say to them therefore: "You will not have peace."
From Ancient Greek περιπέτεια, ultimately from περί ("round, around, about") + the stem of πίπτω ("to fall").
No, I am reading your posts which is why I'm finding these holes in your theory.
First you said this:
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
If Paul was an enemy of Christ, his message would have been the Pagan Mysteries and geared toward the Babylon system of Rome.
Originally posted by EnochWasRight
The Bible is the thread of truth revealing this mystery.
You were speaking of the Pagan Mysteries when you said this.
So tell me, if an enemy of Christ would teach the Pagan Mysteries, then how is the bible not the enemy of Christ? It's FULL of pagan symbolism, and you agree! What givers here? You've GOT to see the contradiction, it's there for everyone to see.