Vampires, Christianity, and The Vatican

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posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 07:30 PM
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Hate to do this, BUT:

If he were a vampire who 'consumed blood' then wouldn't the blood of his victims accumulate in his stomach, and then his intestines? If so, when a spear punctured his instestine, would blood of his victims he ate not fall out? Not trying to debunk your debunk, just thinking outloud




posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 07:48 PM
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The disadvantage to speculating about vampires is that there is, obviously, no exact science to determining the digestive process of a vampire. So we really don't know that, do we?

But let's think here. In the event that the blood is just sitting there, it is likely coagulated. Coagulated blood does not flow. Which means it would just stick inside the intestines, which are naturally elastic and would hold its general shape even if punctured. In all likelihood, any blood inside would not spill out unless it were fresh.

Just thinking out loud here.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 07:49 PM
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Pretty poor debunking if you ask me.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 07:52 PM
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pretty dope theory. this is at least good comic book material.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 08:11 PM
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I've been thinking about writing a book. However, what with the recent spat of news reports of vampires in eastern europe, it's got me to thinking. Perhaps Bram Stoker was not all that fictional in his tale of Dracula. There have been reports of vampires in Serbia, which is not too far, all considering. It's food for thought, or as a bright fellow said earlier, blood for thought. If anyone has anything to bring to light, regarding such affairs, please feel free. I think there is material involving shadowy rituals that has not been brought to light yet.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 08:38 PM
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Oh yeah, Europe! You mean where superstition still flies unabated...

Anyway, those "vampires" might just be people deluded into thinking they need to consume blood. Belief is a powerful motivator. Everyone on this forum knows that.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 08:51 PM
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Maybe. Maybe not. We've had a lot explained away real quick, and real rushed these last couple of years. I don't know if I'd believe the party line. Matter of fact, I'd be inclined to disbelieve the party line, as soon as it erupts from the lying mouths of the goons who spout it.

Us people who are still awake through the night need to make a choice real quick, if you know what I mean.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 03:10 AM
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Yeah, but was he a vampire before the crucifixion? Or he only turned into one afterwards?

I think I just debunked the debunk of the debunk.

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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by Grifter42
Because, as I said in another thread, that humans are being bred as cattle. This society you see around you is a lie. We are being harvested.


Seen many vampires films lately? Hmmm...like BLADE!!!!!???? where the story is precisely about humans being harvested by vampires and a source to other nefarious deeds behind the human society...



Son, you are taking the work of a great being and pervert it to fit your sick fantasies and inability to face reality. Perhaps you were so abused as a child that your self loathing today blames christianity for your spiritual misery? I don´t know.

But please stop taking cheap storylines from b-movies as a comparative base for your baseless accusations of Christ.

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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 06:09 AM
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I dont know about Jesus being a Vampire, i would however postulate that the Catholic faiths Vatican masters seem to have some of the traits associated with said creatures. By that i mean they suck the life out of anyone and everything they come into contact with.

Organised religion does love blood!

Or so History seems to imply!



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 06:18 AM
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Coming soon from Anne Rice: Interview with the Messiah, Vampire Chronicles.

Jesus was a vampire? I hope your shoulder isn't too sore from reaching so much.

The only remotely possible correlation to Vampirism regarding Christianity in my opinion is the Catholic teaching of transubstantiation in which the blessed sacramental wine used in the giving of the host is taught to literally turn into the blood of Christ. Which, by the way, is one of several aspects of Catholicism that (most) Protestants have an issue with.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 06:43 AM
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Congrats OP.

A Vatican insider brought this thread to the Pope's attention and it caused him to resign. I guess he wants to be long gone before the scandal breaks.

Oh, and the Blade movies sucked.

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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 06:49 AM
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Crtl + F + zombie. Check, very good.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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Oh, and the Blade movies sucked.


Blasphemer! The Pope will have your blood for such words!!!




posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 07:39 AM
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Son, you are taking the work of a great being and pervert it to fit your sick fantasies and inability to face reality. Perhaps you were so abused as a child that your self loathing today blames christianity for your spiritual misery? I don´t know.

But please stop taking cheap storylines from b-movies as a comparative base for your baseless accusations of Christ.


Cinema has warped the vampire in many ways to make it more entertaining for society. Blade is but one example of this, and a poor example of what it meant in ancient times to be a vampire. I find it amusing that you accuse us of baseless accusations when you can't even prove your god is real.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 07:41 AM
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Originally posted by indigothefish
It would be worthwhile to try to validate some of those claims. Try to research if there have been any instances of people 'whistleblowing' from inside the vatican, if there are any claims of human sacrifice, especially child sacrifice done in secret within the vatican.
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This exchange by ex-illuminati mind control programmer Svali [SV] undertaking her sealing ceremony in the vatican which involved human sacrifice of a drugged child


SV: See, the Church also brings in adults to swear their allegiance, too, just so you know. I was told, and I don't know if this is true, that if you want to rise to a certain position within the Catholic Church hierarchy, you do have to go through that ceremony as well.


GS: Okay, so you're down in this room. Your parents weren't present.

SV: No. No. The German Father and the French Father were.

GS: Okay, and at that point tell our listeners what you witnessed.

SV: (pause, additional voice stress) Well, there was a table. It looked like dark glass in the center of the room. It was made out of a stone, but it was very shiny and darkened black. It may have been something like obsidian or onyx, I'm not sure. This was the only time I've seen stone like that.

Around the corners it had these gold channels that, you know, collect fluids. A little boy was placed in the center of the table and drugged. I think he was drugged, because he was very quiet. He didn't move or say anything.

GS: This was a little three or four-year-old boy, right?

SV: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

GS: Then they continued to do a child sacrifice.

SV: Yes, they did. Yes. I told you about that before. Yeah.

GS: Now afterwards, quite, what an unbelievable experience for a youth, a 12-year-old. What went through your mind when that happened?

SV: I was terrified! I mean, I was absolutely horrified. I... I... I... I can't describe the terror you feel when you go through something like that.

GS: And do you remember the words they were saying as this was going on?

SV: (pause) The man was in scarlet - he was speaking in Latin. And basically he was saying, "Please accept the sacrifice on this day." And then he said, "This sacrifice will seal the ceremony." And then he did it.

Again, I was so terrified that... (sighs) Have you ever been in a situation where your heart's racing, but you can't do anything? You're just kind of sitting there, and you're kind of fading in and out

GS: Well, I can remember as a youth being frightened, but I don't think I've ever...

SV: (crosstalk) No. All right.

GS:... had anything quite like what you've had.

SV: Imagine your heart rate going up to about 220. You can't move. You're kind of shaking, but you're trying not to show it.

SV: It was horrible. Actually, I keep thinking inside, "I can't wait 'till it's over. I can't wait." You don't say this, but inside you're just saying over and over, "I can't wait 'till this is over. I can't wait 'till this is over. I can't wait 'till it's over.

SV: Afterwards, the man in scarlet, he had a huge golden ring on his hand. He came over to the center of the room. Each of the people that were swearing that day had to go forward and kneel before him and kiss his ring, and swear my allegiance to the New Order, to the New World Order for all... until my death.

GS: Hm. Now at that point you were escorted out.

SV: Yes. Yeah. After the ceremony was all over. I mean, the other people also did theirs as well. They had to swear their allegiance too.
source

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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 08:01 AM
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Came across the vampire/christian similarities with the blood a few years ago.. facts state there are some intriguing coincidences with the blood.
Deep well.

(to Comte - on a lighter note, thought the same as you when I saw the Pope is now leaving)

Can anyone tie in anything with this peace dove being attacked 3 years in a row upon release by the Pope?
- skip to the 2 min. mark for pics of the dove - the segment is 1 min. long -


Just tossing it in the mix.
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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 08:23 AM
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Haha what an excellent notion and one that's never crossed my mind before it's certainly a different twist on an old tale.

Btw,you do know that the revenant of folklore and tradition bore no resemblance to the cultured and urbane Count Dracula or the 'cool',romantic teen image of today.The undead of rural Eastern and Western Europe was a hideous,bloated walking corpse not really the modern creation wmd know today.

Of course it explains how he supposedly died on the cross the returned from the dead (may also be the reason later vampires hate the cross !!!) though my own belief has always been that he never actually died in the first place.

There were no medical doctors,ECG monitors,brain scanners around at the time.Seems to me highly plausible that he lapsed into a temporary coma from the severe trauma of being crucified and everyone believed him dead,moving him to the tomb.A few days later he comes to,in a messed up state but very much alive.

He was then smuggled out to Tibet to get him away from further persecution and his disciples came up with the back from the dead to return to heaven legend thereby cementing his legacy and his place in history,possibly without his full knowledge.

To my mind he couldnt be undead because was never dead to become undead


If you're theory is valid though does that mean he's still kicking about 2 millenia later sucking blood ??

Certainly I'd say the vampire myth is wholly appropriate when discribing Christianity and the way it has leeched off society since it's creation



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 08:47 AM
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Certainly I'd say the vampire myth is wholly appropriate when discribing Christianity and the way it has leeched off society since it's creation


Protestant Christianity is heavily correlated to the massive progress of civilization. Catholicism is associated with stagnation.

Don't go lumping the word Christianity into something that is Catholic, who is described in Revelation and Daniel to be from the Dragon...Satan. It is an insult to Jesus.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 08:50 AM
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yeah that does make sense. lol thanks for the response man, I had to ask!
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