Yep, personally I expected they would deploy (properly equipped) drones early on. They may have, and we will find that out later. Dorner would expect this as well, so he probably didn't plan to be in sight of a thermal scanning drone/heli such as in Big Bear.

Small heli drones will be useless in this search unless they're willing to invade privacy of homes. Hand launched drones and up would be useful but personally I think he is indoors somewhere.

When someone does something like this and is not immediately found, you will see the newest most innovative ways used to locate them. Someone asked earlier if thermal can see in windows - no they cannot (they only see temperature) but other optics can of course.

Dorner looks familiar to some of you but can't quite place why, huh?

Well, a Hellfire missile ($60-70,000) would be cheaper than the million dollar reward plus the expense of trials and appeals before they execute him. Plus a trial would give him a platform. I don't imagine if the cops find him he will go to trial anyway. He is literally a dead man walking and the only question that remains is how many more will he kill. Although, if he starts sniping at the Grammys tonight it might get interesting.

The point about the police use of an Apache helicopter, couldn't it end a high speed chase quickly?

No one will react if this drone locates him and the force brings him in. It will be hailed as a wonderful tool. Then they will slowly become armed. I really wouldn't doubt if the public is apathetic if he was shot down by a drone, I just don't think that is going to be done yet. But it will be done in the near future. This is gonna happen, armed drones against citizens, judge jury and executioner all rolled into one piece of " cheaper " technology coming to a town near you!

Originally posted by stonebutterfly
No one will react if this drone locates him and the force brings him in. It will be hailed as a wonderful tool. Then they will slowly become armed. I really wouldn't doubt if the public is apathetic if was shot down by a drone, I just think that is going to be done yet. But it will be done in the near future. This is gonna happen, armed drones against citizens, judge jury and executioner all rolled into one piece of " cheaper " technology coming to a town near you!

I'm so forgetful, could you please remind what year they started arming helicopters and firing on US citizens? Surely if they are working on arming drones, then they have been using similar technology on other flying machines for decades, right?

I sure do wish folks would drop the BS, scaremongering, paranoid rhetoric. It's old, tired and outright false. Get over yourselves and your hope to make one accurate prediction out of your millions of failed attempts.

Originally posted by LeatherNLace

Originally posted by stonebutterfly
No one will react if this drone locates him and the force brings him in. It will be hailed as a wonderful tool. Then they will slowly become armed. I really wouldn't doubt if the public is apathetic if was shot down by a drone, I just think that is going to be done yet. But it will be done in the near future. This is gonna happen, armed drones against citizens, judge jury and executioner all rolled into one piece of " cheaper " technology coming to a town near you!

I'm so forgetful, could you please remind what year they started arming helicopters and firing on US citizens? Surely if they are working on arming drones, then they have been using similar technology on other flying machines for decades, right?

I sure do wish folks would drop the BS, scaremongering, paranoid rhetoric. It's old, tired and outright false. Get over yourselves and your hope to make one accurate prediction out of your millions of failed attempts.

Yeah, maybe the paranoia is all getting to be too much. Maybe were (myself included) are just suffering from the shell shock of so many violent and twisted events. Anyway, I hope my gut feeling is wrong and I hope you're right and we all just need to get over ourselves. Just hope no one else gets hurt in this particular event, conspiracy or not.

-TheGhoster

The reality is that technology is the way of the future. We personally want faster, cheaper, and more reliable gadgets and I'm sure the government does as well. I am not for drones in the sky, special face recognition cameras, speed trap cameras, sophisticated ID's, body screening devices, etc...but the reality is there is very little I can do about it. It is a part of the time we live in and the future to where we are headed.

Sure I could start a petition at Whitehouse.com, protest, write a letter, help get someone voted out etc...but IMO it isn't going to slow the growing demand for more technology.

Peace

I read part of Dorner's 18 page manifesto and it seems like he was in the process of trying to take down some of the higher ups in the LAPD on allegations of corruption and illegal dealings. Part of his issue is grievance filing. He's filed grievances and reports of misconduct on several other officers and he's made it pretty clear that there has been multiple accounts of retaliation on him for that.

After they fired him he continued to pursue justice to get these guys out of seats of power in LA. He says that they were officers during rodney king era and other such instances and although the technology has changed etc their policies still remain the same.

I can't say that retaliation by form of framing him is too far fetched. If they're going as far as trying to frame this guy then he may really have some dirt on these guys. I would advise him to get to the nearest FBI office with as much of his proof as he can and request protection from them. If he has any weapons on him he would be wise to get rid of them.

Drone's being used to capture him may be a little unnecessary but I can see their use in legitimate cases where there are people and manhunts that definitely need drones being applied. The problem is having such a powerful tool in the hands of those who would use it to exact revenge or to quiet someone who "knows to much"

Originally posted by Hopechest
You know that police forces may upgrade their technology to save money in the long run and that's probably what they are doing by switching to drones.

"saving money" omg... yes please tell me how much money your country saved when you went to war.
or how much money you save when you give pakistan a couple million here or syrian rebels a couple million there

this slow incremental push is so bloody dangerous and insane.

you are literally trying to justify using these things and it's scaring the f out of me.

how can you defend the the police and system all day without a worry of where any of this is headed?

seriously. if this takes anymore steps.... i'm telling you all personally. if this takes anymore steps...

As long as there is no weapons on the drone, its just an evolution from the helo.

Originally posted by stonebutterfly
why weren't they using them to find children before?

Good point, we hadn't heard anything about the drones being used for Amber Alerts have we..

I guess thats not what they are for?

Oh! It is what they're used for now, technically. Only on cop killers though.. I mean, I mean, we can't have drones chasing shop lifters and drug users....... petty criminals like child abductors.