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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 01:45 PM
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Kinda makes ya wonder why the federal government is classifying people like that in the first place. It's like they think some plague spread around the country and infected people with an overwhelming desire to become a terrorist. I suppose they did the same thing with communists back in the day, but they weren't detaining and killing them without due process. Maybe they could address the issue of why people have that inclination (if they really do) in the first place.

There's obviously a bigger plan in place that doesn't involve civil liberties and operating our constitutional republic as it was designed.
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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 02:30 PM
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www.youtube.com...

This should be played with loudspeakers....on a loop on every street corner



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 03:54 PM
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You are a Terrorist if =

You believe in the second coming of Jesus Christ.
You think the Constitution is the Law of the Land.
You question the Government.
You are a Lone individual.
You do not like Obama.
You are a Conspiracy Theorist.
You are a Tea Party Member.
You are against Big Government.
You are a Libertarian.
You are Former Military.
You are Former L.E.O.
You think your Liberties are being stripped away.
You are a Patriot.
You wear a trench coat.
You are a Birther.
You are Pro Life.
You are against T.S.A. Groping/X-Rays.
You can think for yourself.
You do not trust the Mainstream Media.
You own a gun.
You think that the United Nations is bad.
You believe it is smart to stock up on Food+ water.
You want to express free speech.
You protest in any way.
You believe the end is near.
You oppose gun registration.
You believe you are free to travel without being harassed.
You think Military check points are illegal.
You took the time to type out all these conditions on being labeled a Terrorist.
You think The White House is Arming Alceada, The Talibon, The Muslum Brotherhood and Mexican drug lords.
and dis-arming Americans to be slaughtered.
You think Congress are Traitors.
You think the World War Three is Imminent.

I could go on and on. But Yes, I guess I am.
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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 04:59 PM
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If my choice is to go along with their criminality, inhumanity to each-other, fraudulent scheming, totalitarian, chip the population, nazi agenda, or if I don't then I'm a terrorist, then you are effin-A right I choose to be a terrorist, and I'm proud of it. I will never go along with their agenda, and I will proudly defend the constitution with my last breath. Drone me now and get it over with.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 06:17 PM
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Did you view < Police State 2000 > This was an actual exercise by American and Norwegian troops in a co-operative neighborhood . You need to check into what happens during Martial Law and how little the President has to do to invoke it . When he goes for the guns Martial Law will be involved . The Pres. then becomes Dictator for 6 months before it can be reviewed by Congress . Will there be a Congress then?
People trusting their Government is the reason we are in the shape we are in now .



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 07:05 PM
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Are YOU a terrorist?,


No, but I'm willing to learn.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 07:07 PM
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Count me in! I'm overqualified!


Where do we meet up?



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 07:12 PM
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I sort of don't care what a bunch of strangers in fancy embroidery call me. They might be repeating what they have heard from other countries around the planet. In kindergarten, if someone calls you a poopyhead, does it mean you are one? No, it means the name caller has a big problem.

This country is going through an auto-immune disease phase right now. It doesn't know who is supposed to have rights. The real idea is that citizens get the rights, but there are so many immigrants wanting the same rights without going through the motions to become citizens, it's confused with the political correctness lingo that it heard from a decade or two ago. It comes from the illusion that if there are hundreds of millions of people in the USA, then they all must be citizens, because somewhere there is a miracle agency taking immigrants out of the country just as soon as they arrive, sniffing through all the phony IDs.

So then they need a different way to segregate people, so they choose the word terrorist. It's supposed to define someone who may or may not be a citizen who is not behaving as the DHS believes a citizen should behave. That is the broad scope of it. It went from a niche definition that would cover mostly foreign groups that wanted to destroy something in USA, to anybody who has a hissyfit over the way the government runs things.

It's one of the best mind-twisting words that someone can throw these days, because it was invented by political authority figures and you can stick in on virtually anybody that disagrees with you in the name of counter-terrorism. I realized it one day, that counter-terrorism is just more terrorism thrown out there to counteract the terrorism coming in from another direction. It's not anti-terrorism that government is trying to apply.

It sort of reminds me of the way people in the USA would throw around the word communist in the latter half of the 20th century. It's a type of hate speech, sanctioned for government use mostly. It's what they call someone instead of the word criminal. Maybe in NLP(neuro linguistic programming) the T-sounds and the hissing at the end make it a more wicked-sounding word to hurl at someone than to say the word criminal.

Now you can get all legalese and find the true definition of the word, but that's not how it's being used these days. It has mutated to cover any acts of individuals which might necessitate law enforcement to take more complicated measures against. There's blue collar crime, white collar crime, then terrorism, for when normal crime-fighting under normal law systems is still not putting the government in control of the situation.

It's a political twilight zone word: act of civil war? Could be re-labled domestic terrorism, for example. It's a PR(public relations) word. It's an -ism word, and with that -ism comes a big "things I might call bad if I can get away with in in a seat of politics" philosophy that gets put under that word. Where they muddle it about and approach it from more invented political science ways. It's a behavioral approach involving mentalities more than a you-break-it-you-bought-it approach that traditional laws and their courts with judges and attorneys provide. Amorphous.

I am a terrorist to cockroaches, spiders and other crawling insects. They fear me, scattering when the light switch flips on, because they know I will destroy them. I wreck havoc on their colonies! Do you understand? You're not supposed to be afraid of being called a name, but that's what is happening with the dreaded T-word going around powerful political circles, trying to sterilize the liberty from the population. Hate speech.
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posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 08:46 PM
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Damn, I'm all of the above, well except I rarely pay for anything with cash because it's just too damn easy to pay for things with my Check Card.

So now I'm the terrorist but it's totally cool DC funds, supports, and arms Al Qaeda.

This reality we are all living in presently is literally backwards.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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Did you view < Police State 2000 > This was an actual exercise by American and Norwegian troops in a co-operative neighborhood . You need to check into what happens during Martial Law and how little the President has to do to invoke it . When he goes for the guns Martial Law will be involved . The Pres. then becomes Dictator for 6 months before it can be reviewed by Congress . Will there be a Congress then?
People trusting their Government is the reason we are in the shape we are in now .


Your point are valid for suspicion. I won't argue that..

What I'm trying to say is that there are MANY other possibilities one can attach as to why the government is preparing by arming their agencies.. None of them good I'm sure.. But it doesn't mean they are going to commit an all out offensive against the citizenry..



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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You can not access that list any longer . The DHS was railed for it . Some Policeman some where put it out for us to see . Basically if you are a patriotic American and exercise your rights of freedom of religion and right to possess fire arms , were trained to fight in the military and could pose a threat to the treasonist bunch of Globalist you are a terrorist .Alex Jones is a loud mouth , but he has a video of UN troops training with US troops putting Americans into the ( word spoken on the video) CAMPS ( that they say do not exist ) . Called Police State 2000 .
The dept. of HLS is the 4th Riech / NWO's Gestapo and they are not hiding it at all .
We are in deep shXX !


I bring you and Metal good news, ATS already has a thread on it, www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 09:34 PM
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Actually thats not the article I was referring to .This directive from either FEMA or Homeland Security was to police departments to set as a standard what to look for . It was an involved list and made a great stir on the Internet ,. It was retracted and scrubbed from the internet even after it kept popping up. Most probably Alex Jones or PrisonPlanet still has it .
For laughs google < Goarmy 3IE Specialist> or < Internment /Resettlement Specialist ( 31E)> This is an official US Army site . Police State 2000 video actually shows foriegn troops shooting blanks from a machine gun position simulating actual combat with American citizens resisting the UN push .And American soldiers instructing the civilian people who took part in the exercise about processing them into the CAMPS . What camps? The ones they are talking about that does not exist . I have followed some contracts awarded for their construction .Much to be seen here .



posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 03:24 AM
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I suspect that my avatar alone would get me on the list, as would any number of other things.


Ah, well......I guess if "terrorist" means anyone that doesn't agree 100% with the current administration, then half the country is on the list.



posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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A list came out that was sent to local law enforcement agencies from the Dept. of Homeland Security that defined Domestic Terrorist . When it became public knowledge people went ape about it . Homeland Security retracted it and expunged it from the Net . This list defined the following people as potential domestic terrorist . People who were against illegal immigration , Socialism, Global Government . People who were religious ( Christian ) people who held the Constitution and Bill of Rights , owned Guns , Veterans ,survivalist , wanted to cling to the American way and against homosexuality .

Any one who didn't want to give up their sovereignty and freedom were terrorist . That should tell you who the Homeland Security is .


I saved the .pdf of that. Interesting reading, that one! Everything you state about it is 100% accurate, from what I remember.



posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by bekod
well to see if your being listed by TSA DHS FBI or the LEO's here is the link
publicintelligence.net... here is the list

Last updated September 16, 2011. *snip*


Heck, think I will go through and list the ones I fit:

Do you:
Like to pay in cash - Have in the past, do sometimes now.
Visit a storage facility at unusual times - ALL the time I do; I am a night owl, and when I go, it's usually really late. Actually had a cop show up once, to ask if it was my unit I was placing things INTO.
Have “suspicious” textbooks regarding chemistry or biology - Define "suspicious". We home school, and have tons of books.
Have photographs of well-known locations - Gee....like vacation pics, etc?
Have a GPS unit - in my cell phone. And?
Like to take photographs - Big time!
Wear winter clothing - Only in winter. It's COLD here in winter.
Frequently travel to areas “of concern” - Definition? Does a military base count? The airport we drive past to reach it?
Have large amounts of baby formula - Did when I had a kid drinking it. So?
Wear scarves, head bands, hooded sweatshirts, or heavy coats - When it's cold, yeah.
Have stains on your clothing - I have children. So, yeah.
Have a blender, a slow cooker or coffee filters in your hotel room - Don't most hotels include coffee stuff?
Appear “stressed out” - Again...I have kids.....
Have a bumper sticker on your car supporting legal rights - Supporting rights is terrorism?

Have you:

Traveled overseas lately - Hubby has, with military
Refused maid-service at a hotel - When they came too early, yeah.
Used a phone in the lobby of a hotel - to call a guest there, yeah.
Used prepaid calling cards - Again, for military deployments, and some left over from that. So?
Left a briefcase or a bag somewhere - Forgetting my purse in a shopping cart when pregnant makes me a terrorist?
Asked security personnel for directions - Sure, at the mall. They know where stuff is.
Changed your name - Yep, like a lot of women do upon getting married......
Attended public demonstrations - yeah
Flown a private plane over any kind of infrastructure - Flown IN one, over lots of stuff, with a cousin that's a pilot.
Taken a photograph of a courthouse - Yes, a really nice night shot. It's a pretty building.
Attempted to purchase a firearm or other weapon - succeeded, too
Sought training in the use of a weapon - required for a permit......

Are you:

Overly concerned about privacy - Define "overly".
A pregnant woman - Have been, several times.
Driving to Wal-Mart - It's too far to walk. Usually too cold or hot, too.
Taking a photograph of any location where there are no tourists - I take tons of photos, and tourists aren't required.

Gee, I guess I am on a list somewhere......


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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 04:36 AM
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So.. the good part:
This list will likely set focus on terrorists and actually create the pre-emptive awareness needed to battle homeland terrorism.

The bad part:
The distance from you accidentaly doing all the terrorist related events to you beeing triangulated and attacked by a homeland drone just got considerably shortened.

The only thing that would be worse were if they had a GPS tracker on you that could listen in on everything you said. Maybe keyword activated recordings and automated strikes?
Oh....wait... everyone already carries a cellphone. Hmm,,


I suspect the "drone age" will make for an increase in MSM news like this: Man hit by "freak meteorstorm", hehe..



posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 04:56 AM
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depends who is asking.

If you are complete moron with a hard on for the federal government then maybe. If you are a normal perosn not from the planet arachnia of the 12th dimension, no.

I was thinking about why people who are really smart, like physicists or great mathematicians lack common sense.

One of my customers was laughing because her husband who is a physicist thinks he has to shut off the power to change a light bulb.....seriously. He is also absolutely brilliant she says. We talked about it a little.

I think people who study political science and make it to the top are really smart and at the same time complete morons.

This is the only explanation I can come up with for their labeling of the entire country as terrorists. They may be slightly retarded. I mean that seriously.

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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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I'm Drone Bait !




posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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Perhaps we're naive about today's suppression of the inalienable human right, granted by God (not the State nor any man), to Freedom of Speech.

While this great country was founded and strengthened by heated intellectual discourse, it is no longer safe to express political opinions, religious opinions, or other opinions that differs from the programmed collective. This restriction of Free Speech really took its power with the acceptance, by the American People, of political correctness. From there, the first amendment has been torn apart guilt by guilt in favor of some rather diabolical multinational endeavors.

The definition of the word 'terrorist' mentioned and outlined in so many executive orders and federal legislations certainly allow too much gray area, generality, by which any free-thinking person could be included in that horrible label. Therefore, it is an inaccurate term and should be dismissed, unless otherwise redefined to narrowly read 'any person or persons preparing, assisting, and/or committing acts of mass fear against the nation and its citizens.'

Any other threats to the State should be evaluated under other words that fit the particular meaning of what those people are. The vagueness of today's de facto definition is too broad and too easily allows abuses of power, especially the expanded powers granted to the State to handle issues of that terrorist label.

Everything in the world can change just by how a solitary, simple-seeming word is defined.

I thank God I live in a country where the Freedom of Speech is codified as a God-given attribute to humankind, and I pray that those in power will understand the importance of such, as well as how to define words with more Merriam-Webster or Oxford preciseness.



posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 05:03 PM
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Actually we are all potential terrorists depending on ones point of view! From the perspective of those living in the middle east, they might say all americans are terrorist but especially the political heirarchy! Terrorism is a relative term along with truth and reality! We are all capable of culpable acts and have the ability to choose whether to terrorize others! None of us knows the truth for sure since the past is dictated for the purpose of manipulation and coercion of the present! Terrorism is a last resort tactic of a resistant force unable to bring change through diplomacy or military intervention! It usually is not a very good tactic for bringing change but is better for making a society take notice which is the first step in getting people listen! It may also bring about the opposite effect by promoting an emotional response of disgust! This disgust could make a society less inclined to listen to those responsable!
As for the statements of the states deductive reasoning on which Americans are potential terror suspects. For the state to of made such statements as the OP has stated seems IMHO to be totally irrational and illogical!
These statements border on the brink of being terrorist statements themselves but tend to be more along the lines of fear mongering! These statements seem to be a desperate act of a fascist run society attempting to strip away our rights while chaining our society with unjust laws, unreasonable acts and trying to maintain
the bonds of oppression through intimidation and fear! I would also expect by the direction of such perposterous acts for things to get a heck of alot worse until the ignorance in our society becomes a relic!









 
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