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Originally posted by Tardacus
The anti gun folks aren`t against everyone having guns they are only against citizens having guns. The anti gun folks will use the police and military as a proxy to fight for them because it`s only ok for the police and the military to have guns.edit on 10-2-2013 by Tardacus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ooYODAoo
who is versing who? is it pro gun vs. anti gun?
how would this war be fought...the only possible way i can see this scenario playing out would be pro guns fighting against government agents trying to confiscate their guns...but this wouldn't make it a civil war would it?
Originally posted by Hopechest
There's not nearly enough people upset enough to take up arms.
IAmerica is to apathetic to give up their nightly tv shows and their cell phones to go to war.edit on 10-2-2013 by Hopechest because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Hefficide
There is a world of difference between sitting in a comfortable home, on an anonymous Internet connection ( often behind the false sense of security that TOR anonymizers bring ) discussing the notion of rising up and engaging in an armed conflict and actually going outside, armed to the teeth, and walking into combat.
My honest to God belief is that if the FBI actually began going through these statements and hauling folks in for questioning, the majority of people making these statements would likely claim that their WiFi networks must have been compromised - as they themselves would never engage in sedition.
Those who actually do mean what they say, and who would actually have the sand to load their guns and walk outside to engage in combat will fail for the same reason that the current war on drugs is such an abysmal failure - one cannot declare war on oneself.
IMO there are two distinct elements involved in this phenomenon. One is the far right. That is a chestnut I am not sure how to crack. They want America to be what they want America to be - and they refuse to accept any sort of compromise or dilution of their agenda. The other faction is those who are generally fed up. To them I simply say that we have a tool called the Democratic process already at our disposal and if you don't like what is going on in Washington... quit voting for the same damned people that you send there, for their entire careers, over and over again. It's that simple.
My own feeling is that it will never come to much of anything though. It's just the new normal for folks to sit on the Interwebs and say outrageous things. As long as this remains the case, the bar will continue to get pushed further and further - as each successive taboo is broken. Eventually a dialogue will emerge about what Freedom of Speech means and where the boundaries of it are... and the same folks screaming about guns, today, will have a new cause to focus upon.