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Penelope Soto, Miami Teen, Flips Off Judge And Gets A Month In Jail

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posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 09:28 AM
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posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by DaTroof
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Charging her with contempt is also a message to everyone else in the courtroom to respect the rules of the courtroom.

I understand. But I still think it's a bit extreme to put her with murderers and thieves just because she swore at some bloke.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 11:13 AM
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AMERICA IS A CORPORATION

www.law.cornell.edu...

If say a representative of MONSANTO fined you $5000 Dollars then $10000 Dollars and then had the audacity to try to send you to a disgusting little cell, would you accept it?

After all why should you accept it from one private Corporation (USA) and not another (Monsanto).

Adios.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 01:53 PM
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She obviously was not taking her court apperance seriousely, and made herself look like a knucklehead. Maybe if she just "stood tall before the man", and took responsibility for herself, she wouldn't have a doubled bail and a 30 day jail sentaince. This kid made adult choices, she needs to realise there are adult consequences. Hopefully, she learned something, albeit the hard way.

As far as her going to jail and be around other criminals...too **** bad. Jail is not ment to be a resort spa. She did the crime, got caught, found guilty, and now has to do her time. I didn't put her there, you didn't put her there, she did. If she doesn't "fix" herself, the stakes will get higher the older she gets.

I bet the chick behind her didn't lip off to the judge. lol.
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posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 02:03 PM
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Oh man my wifes a science teacher
Do you have any idea how much you just cost me ink printing that off to post around the school ?

I'm sure there was post to reply to there a minute ago
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Oh new page FACEPALM
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posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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That judge has an enormous head. Wow. That is the disclosure we have been waiting for. Couple thoughts. How does he not know b•a•r•s= bars. Why is his English so awful? How did he get appointed or voted in? I would bet my bottom dollar he drives a Mercedes or a Porsche to work and thinks poorly of anyone not in his "social strata".

It is my opinion that even though it does appear she is under the influence of something. Or she was trying to act hard as sort of a jailhouse badge it was entirely his fault for being such a condescending prick. His "bye bye" was uncalled for as was his asserting "we are not at the club" like he has had one ounce of fun in his entire existence besides from making people feel stupid and inferior. He should have been hit with "contempt of a courtroom".
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posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 02:33 PM
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I saw a judge say mockingly "bye bye" and the girl reply "adios" in which the judge brings her back, levies a harsher ruling and says adios himself.

Contempt of court? The two of them should have received the charge. If the judge can't take a joke he should probably stop joking himself in his courtroom...



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 02:38 PM
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Her final mistake in this was to answer 'yes" when the Judge asked if she was swearing at him. When a Judge asks these kind of questions you say NO.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by DaTroof

Originally posted by severdsoul
While i agree, she over stepped the bounds, i also think the
judge was wrong as well. Doubling the fine just because she
said "adios" is a bit extreme.
I am kind of torn in this one. While i support the system and think
a level of respect should be shown. I think judges think they are
more than they should be. They get that god like complex and it goes
to their heads.
After all, they work for us, not the other way around. There should be some
respect going both ways.


The judge is of Latino descent. Saying "Adios" was disrespectful and unnecessary.


The girls last name is "Soto" and she had an accent as well. Good chance she is Latina in which case it's saying goodbye in their native language. Him saying "bye bye" the way he did was just as unnecessary.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 02:47 PM
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There is nothing wrong with this its normal that a judge demands respect and an orderly court room. Heck I almost got thrown in jail for disrupting a court session. What was I doing you might ask I was using a leaf blower 300-400 feet away from the court room and I was told I was disrupting the hearing and that if I didn't stop I would be detained in jail for 24 hours true story.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 04:09 PM
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Obviously...this young woman was very foolish. If she had just kept her mouth shut; and not made a certain gesture; she would be at home right now.

Right at that moment: the judge had the power ever hour. I think 30 days was a bit harsh though.

She has learned an important lesson the hard way...the world does not revolve around her; and there are consequences for inappropriate behavior.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 04:26 PM
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What exactly did she do? Consume a substance? Did she harm someone in the process? I don't really see the reason for her to appear in a court in the first place if she wasn't posing a danger to someone. I wouldn't have respect for such a nonsense law or a court that supports it, but I would still show respect to the other party to show that we can do better than this. But she is certainly young and impulsive, I am too, but not like I were at eighteen. Seems silly to be deprived of you freedom for 30 days because of such a "crime". I guess you don't own your body after all, 2013 and still burning witches (figuratively), lovely.
edit on 10/2/2013 by Konoyaro because: 2013 I meant of course




posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 05:29 PM
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enjoy the 30 days goverment holiday jail is a good place to meet friends & influence people
fxxx the system the cant jail us all freedoms all in the mind ??



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 05:30 PM
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All she said was Adios... And he decided to pull a power play.

No reason for it whatsoever and she got pissed.

Peace



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by jude11
All she said was Adios... And he decided to pull a power play.

No reason for it whatsoever and she got pissed.

Peace


I'm surprised the judge didn't punish her even more when she started giving him more attitude at the end of the video.



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 07:15 PM
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I've hesitated commenting because I have some first hand experience in this type of situation. During my divorce proceedings, in the mid nineties, it quickly became apparent that my soon-to-be ex-wife was kicking my butt. Our divorce was "no fault" - she simply wanted to be free so that she could marry the next guy on her hit list ( she went through six of us in less than six years - long story ). At one point she argued that she needed both of our brand new cars, just in case hers broke down... and the judge agreed.

I lost it. I was already out of a house, a ton of money, and almost all of my possessions ( seeking to escape with my clothes and my dignity at this point ) and now they were going to take my only means of getting to work? in a moment of rage and frustration I called the judge a... Well it's a word that is the short version of Richard.

I was immediately placed in contempt of court ( the only crime I have ever been in trouble for ) and sent directly to jail.

Very long and complex story short: I had to hire a second lawyer - one who had interned with this judge and who was a personal friend of his, just to get access to him. This lawyer charged me a very, very hefty fee. He took over a week to negotiate a "deal" where I wound up writing out a $1,500 personal check - in the judges name - with the word "gift" on the comment line and was released. But not without one last slap. When my "release" papers showed up, they turned out to not be release papers... but transfer papers to a work camp. I was transported there, had my head forcibly shaved... and was then called into an administrators office and told "There was an error in your paperwork. You are actually free to go. You have one hour to be at least one mile away from this facility or you will be rearrested for criminal trespass".

This was in the middle of a snowstorm.

I walked out of the work camp, in a blizzard, in a dress shirt, dress pants, and dress shoes ( the clothes I'd had on during court ) - bald headed and not only in the middle of nowhere... but without much of a clue at all of where I was period. I started walking down the road and didn't stop. About an hour later I came to a gas station, asked the clerk to explain to me where exactly I was, made a collect call to a relative to come and pick me up. And that was that. End of story.

Never heard another word about it.

But, since then I have had a very pronounced and clearly defined opinion of judicial corruption and the absolute abuses inherent in the notion of contempt of court. Subsequently I learned that there are actually people in the United States, right now, effectively serving life sentences, without charge or the possibility of review or representation of any kind - all under the guise of contempt charges ( Google Cuban detainees, Atlanta, GA for validation of this claim ).

In summary... if this girl flipped me or you off would she serve a month in jail? Of course not. Even if we managed to get her arrested, she'd at least be able to make bond. Why should this judge, our own American aristocracy, be any different?



posted on Feb, 10 2013 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by DaTroof

Originally posted by severdsoul
While i agree, she over stepped the bounds, i also think the
judge was wrong as well. Doubling the fine just because she
said "adios" is a bit extreme.
I am kind of torn in this one. While i support the system and think
a level of respect should be shown. I think judges think they are
more than they should be. They get that god like complex and it goes
to their heads.
After all, they work for us, not the other way around. There should be some
respect going both ways.


The judge is of Latino descent. Saying "Adios" was disrespectful and unnecessary.


Yea? Oh no... the minority card. She doesnt seem white either btw... But anyway, he should have learned to speak english by now... asshole with god complex. I wonder... does he have to do this to a perfectly normal girl whos clearly in the age of "rebellion" to show how bad ass he is?

Screw him and go learn english... if it depended on me I wouldnt give a job to judge who doesnt even know how to properly speak english.

As for the finger... yea he deserved it. For the girl... appeal it. And then find a way to sue him for abuse of authority or something you can grab on, thats really stupid and that can cause him the most amount of grief. If she was my daughter I would try everything to destroy that silly judge... would even plant coke on his car at night and call the cops and be sure he would see me waving... "adios".

Meanwhile... real criminals are going rampant.



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 12:40 AM
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I must side with the judge overreacting, i can understand wanting respect, but not when
you play along with her and laugh like you think its funny only to then turn around and
all of the sudden pretend you were being serious, while i do agree i disliked her attitude
that IS NOT a reason to jail the woman for 30! days! i really don't care if she was disrespecting
the man, he made the environment seem jovial and to a person who might well have been
intoxicated at the time that was a green light for her to act slightly jovial in return, he then
gets angry because she said goodbye in another language? since when is that a reasonable
thing to do? i don't care what language she used, if she had said dasvidaniya instead would
he have taken it as a threat on his life because contextually it has been used this way
in the past? that's what he did, since adios in a slightly goofy way has been used in the
past as a brush off he assumes this is the case, but what i see is a brat who thought,
since the judge was being kinda goofy with her she could simply say adios in a jovial
manner.......

There is nothing wrong with respect, however there is something wrong with playing
along until you feel as if your feeling have been hurt and then lashing out in a childish
manner..... they need rules too, apparently some major major oversight as well.



posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 07:56 PM
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Lookie Lookie! What Our Esteemed Judge Has Been Up To

So, this judge does all kinds of stuff himself and throws the book at a girl for being rude to him?

Only in 'Merica!



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 04:08 AM
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Originally posted by YapTalk
Lookie Lookie! What Our Esteemed Judge Has Been Up To

So, this judge does all kinds of stuff himself and throws the book at a girl for being rude to him?

Only in 'Merica!


Good on your for following up with the story and keeping an eye out to bring everything into frame.








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