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Originally posted by Hopechest
But aren't there still many very popular conspiracy theorists around that they haven't taken out?
People like Alex Jones.
I've never heard of this guy so it seems they are taking out small potatoes and leaving the big ones?
I don't understand the logic behind that.
Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by Hopechest
I think some of it is a bit of egotism at work. It's always nice to think you are important in some way. The truth is, it's been over 10 years. There have been so many movies, books, and other media about 9/11. The idea this one guy was important enough to whack is kind of laughable in the end. It doesn't even take his book out of the market, so what was the point in it?
In the end I don't think anyone here is worthy of government attention and I doubt this guy was.
Originally posted by Dnoir
As has been mentioned what would be the purpose of this guy being 'off'd' for whistle blowing? He is a fairly insignificant writer and his book is stil available to buy plus there are countless books and YouTube videos about 911 conspiracy what would make this guy so special and why now? It's likely he was just having deep problems my thoughts go out to his family. I think the real issue is how was this man allowed to have a gun? I'm not from America so I have no idea how gun control works but surely some people must think its crazy letting ordinary citizens have such easy access to weapons which cause such destruction in the wrong hands say someone who is mentally unstable as this man may have been?
Originally posted by Argyll
reply to post by Agarta
Sad story.......but surely if his book contained any embarrassing truths and he was a target for shadowy agencies then they would have taken him out before his book was published......or they would have targeted the publishersedit on 9/2/2013 by Argyll because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by desert
If you go to page 3 of this ATS thread ... Two Fmr US Senators File Statements With NY Court Connecting Saudi Arabia With 9/11 Attacks, from a year ago ... you'll find where I brought up Philip Marshall's info. Interesting discussion ensued.
Spoiler alert ... I had to type in quotes from the book, because there was nothing elsewhere from which to cut and paste quote. No articles were out there either authored by Marshall or interviewing him. On page 5, look for a post by 767Flyer.
People have to understand that we are not talking about something "the govt" did, but rather a crime was committed by criminal elements within the govt. A high crime.
Originally posted by desert
Ah, the deaths as sending a message to the Senators! Hmmmmmm, plausible. As posters have noted, Philip Marshall was not a well known 9-11 conspiracy theorist, but it turns out he most likely got the truth out there. If I am correct, and sometimes I am , at the time of writing his first book, False Flag, he was unaware of the Arizona connection. It was his last book that tied up the unknowms into the probable scenario.
I hear ya re the litany of 9-11 theories. Even if it were an "inside job", the theories sounded more like from a super heroes comic book or Hollywood. I had a PhD mathematician trying to convince me of explosives, complete with equations.
You know, maybe that something that wasn't quite right about 9-11 struck some of us, and we all responded, like that mathematician, with what personally made sense. Personally, I will share this ... it is my last post on this thread.
At this C-SPAN link is the video and transcript of Mr. Marshall in August of last year at an ALPA event directing a question to Mr. Pistole (from TSA and formerly FBI).
While other 9-11 conspiracy theorists are probably laughed at, I imagine Mr. Marshall was taken seriously, by people who knew either the truth or that something wasn't quite right about 9-11.
00:00:00 - I'M PHIL MARSHALL.
00:00:02 - I'VE DONE A SEVEN-YEAR INVESTIGATION INTO THE 9/11 ATTACK.
00:00:06 - YOU KEEP MENTIONING THE BOJIKA PLOT AND THE UNDERWEAR BOMB AND ALL THESE.
00:00:12 - I'M CURIOUS, IN THAT REPORT THE 2002 CONGRESSIONAL JOINT INQUIRY REPORT THAT SENATOR BOB GRAHAM HEADED, HE RECENTLY FILED A SUIT AGAINST THE SAUDI ARABIAN GOVERNMENT AND THEY HAD 80 PAGES WORTH OF EVIDENCE ON THE SAUDI TEAM THAT WAS IN THE UNITED STATES WHO WERE OUT IN THE ARIZONA DESERT TRAINING FOR THE 9/11 MISSION.
00:00:39 - I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY YOU DID NOT MENTION THAT?
00:00:44 - WELL, THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS I COULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS MORNING THAT WENT WAY BEYOND MY LIMITED REMARKS.
00:00:51 - 15 OF THE 19 HIJACKERS WERE SAUDI.
00:00:54 - THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT TOOK STEPS PARTICULARLY AFTER THE 2003, THE MAY 12th, 2003 BOMBING IN RIYADH THAT CAMPAIGN MOAK MENTIONED I WORKED ON TO TAKE STEPS TO ADDRESS BOTH AL QAEDA OPERATING OUT OF THE ARABIAN PENINSULA BUT THE FUND-RAISING THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE KINGDOM AND TOOK A NUMBER OF STEPS TO ADDRESS THAT.
00:01:14 - SO THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS I COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT BUT THE FOCUS WAS ON HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF THOSE PRIOR PLOTS AND WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED FROM THEM AND HOW WE CAN BEST WORK IN PARTNERSHIP TO BEST THAT POSTURE.
00:01:33 >> THAT IS ALL FOR THE QUESTIONS OF ADMINISTRATOR PISTOLE.
Originally posted by Agarta
Former airline pilot and conspiracy theorist 'shot dead his two teenage children and his dog before turning the gun on himself'
(visit the link for the full news article)
A pilot who wrote a conspiracy theory book about 9/11 is dead after he shot his two teenage children and family dog before turning the gun on himself.
Relatives and friends of Phillip Marshall were stunned by the violent crime which took place in Calaveras County on Saturday.
Their bodies were discovered when friends of the teens went to the family home on Sandalwood Drive and looked through the windows, they could see 54-year-old Phillip Marshall lying on the floor in a pool of blood.
Originally posted by Agarta
I would like to begin this post with saying, I feel for Sean Plummer(Marshall)(*I believe this is the correct name of Phillips ex wife) and am saddened with her over her loss. I also wish to state that I mean absolutely no ill will to the deceased especially the children. I am also not insinuating anything of a immoral implication of any member of the family. I am however attempting to see the scene as it is being described and the questions it brings up. I apologize to anyone who may find it offensive in anyway. If any of this information is incorrect, please post the corrections.
The Family dog was found shot in a bedroom. There is no report, that I have found, that states if the door to the room was open or closed.
The Children were found cuddled under a blanket on the couch. The reports say they were shot in their sleep and did not appear to have suffered and looked comfortable. The reports say they were shot in the head with a .9mm glock and no silencer was used. With the volume of sound at the point of discharge I find this information strange. If the dog was shot first it would have awakened the children(unless they were drugged. Toxicology has been ordered for Phillip, but as far as I can find, not for the children or a silencer was used). One would assume that it would have taken 2 rounds, one for each, and it would be safe to say one was woken prior to being shot(again unless drugged or a silencer was used) unless a single round killed them both. If a single round was used then it would be safe to say they were laying on the couch with their heads to one side. This position seems odd for a brother and sister of the ages of 17 and 14 to be in(again I am not implying anything immoral) especially when one can presume they both had their own bedrooms(one report I have found says there was a mortgage of over $230,000 which implies it was not a 1 or 2 bedroom home). If they were at opposite ends, one would have woke after the first round was fired(unless they were drugged or a silencer was used) making the shot more difficult. Another thought is that they were positioned to look comfortable and in a position of sleep but no reports have come out to support this. I have seen reports that there was 3 shots fired which would support the theory of them both at one end of the couch as it would then be, one for the dog, one for both of the Children, and one for Phillip. It would then bring into question, did Phillip actually hope it would only take a single shot and he planned it that way? did it just work out that way? or was the number of bullets fired incorrect? If he did shot the Children first then went to the dog then came back out to the family room to shoot himself, why even bother with the dog? If he shot the dog first, then came out to the family room and shot his children, why then did they not wake from the shot to the dog?
Phillip shot himself in the head(official story)
A report on a much earlier case shows that Sean(the Mother) had broken into the home and attempted to steal a bottle of prescription Morphine that belonged to Phillip. If he still had the medication it could have been used to drug the Children and it could all make sense, but no tests(as far as I can find) were ordered for the toxicology of the children. If they were drugged they could have been positioned and would not have woke through the ordeal. This then brings in the questions of what was it that made him finally snap? If he planned it all out to the point of drugging the Children why then did he choose not to leave a note? especially if it was all directed at making his ex wife suffer. OR WHO assassinated this Family? and last but not least, why are there absolutely no pictures of Mom with the children available. There are no pictures of the Family as a whole unit nor of Phillip and Jean. The only pictures are of Dad and the 2 Children and they look very happy in all I have seen.
Please help me to understand how this scene played out because it just does not add up with the information we have.edit on 10-2-2013 by Agarta because: Added