You see, the globetrotters are owned by the same people that own the washington generals. The crowd gets a show and cheer even if the game is rigged
and the outcome is determined by the teams' owner. Republicans and Democrats are just like that. Democrats are the "good cops", Republicans the "bad
cops". Both differ in their approach and in the treatment you might get, but the end goal is the same and it is not in your benefit. Gay marriage,
abortions, all minor distractions when the end game is tyrannical, authoritarian empire with two classes; the billionaires and the submissive,
quasi-slave unwashed masses. Divide and conquer through partisanship and propaganda while furthering the plutocrats' agenda. Obama, Bush, Romney are
all PR muppets and nothing more.
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Norway has one of the highest standards of living in the world so......
I wouldn't mind.
Higher than the US..
At least they have a middle class.
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With the amount of wealth they have per person, they should be blowing the U.S. out of the water, but they aren't. You can't compare compare a
country with over 350 Million with a country of 5 Million that has almost endless resources.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
The raise is not a raise...it states clearly that it was part of a temp stimulus that artificially lowered taxes a bit on payroll for awhile...it was
set to expire, yes..it needs to expire.
what the hell is wrong with people. if you get a coupon for a dollar off a 3 dollar burger, you get a burger for 2 bucks and eat happily...
you don't then expect forever the burger will be 2 bucks...get over it you morons..see, this is the entitlement bs people claim...give a quick
stimulus injection and suddenly you want it forever.
Hense why the entitlement party (the republicans) have been demanding the bush stimulus tax cuts are made permanent.
(see what I did there?)
So no, in this regard, Obama didn't lie...people are just not paying attention.
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the (entitlement republicans)? DC taxes payroll and our pay and you think we shouldn't have a problem with these taxes going up? temporary my ***,
that tax shouldn't even be there. we're taxed too much as it is. how do you get the republicans are the entitlement party because they let us keep
more of our money? i'm not a republican cheerleader either because they're too weak but how do you equate that? we make it, DC wastes it and then
asks for more.. how on earth can you be ok with that?
they will never have enough money... ie present day Europe, and history will repeat the idiocy of progressive
policies because of stupidity and lies!!!
ps.. and no i did not see what you did there.
Name 10 programs that can be cut that most of the US would agree to
or even the majority.
Caveat...it must be 10 programs that either you or your immediate family uses..such as SS or medicare...no just saying stop everything you personally
don't use...it must be equal sacrifice..
Roads are fair game...since you probably use it.
We should be using horses anyhow..or perhaps roadworks should be a public thing (nothing like a toll booth on every street corner)
Originally posted by FlyersFan
We went to H&R Block and had our taxes done last week. All the preparers were talking about how they expect a lot of upset people next year when the
Obamacare TAX kicks in .. and all the people who think they are getting free health care will instead get hit with tax penalties because they didnt'
go out and buy the product (health care) mandated by Obama.
Expect lots and lots of ticked off people next Feb-Apr when they go to do their taxes.
And lots and lots of new conservative voters in the 2014 mid-terms as a result!
Let's see Obama do anything with a GOP House and Senate.
I'd like to field my idea for this. I'd start by lopping off a good $400 - $500 billion from the military budget. I would then take about half of that
and invest it into infrastructure improvements; the other half I would put towards the debt. Create jobs rebuilding our roads, bridges, sewers, parks,
etc. As more and more people become employed, we can naturally start reducing the social services budget and weening people off of government
assistance. This newly freed up money can then go to educate and help fund these newly employed to start business once these public works contracts
expire. As more and more businesses open, they are able to hire more and more people, further reducing the need for social programs. At this point we
can start speeding up the weening process by backing off the money being invested to help the people become employed (if the people have already
created the businesses and are employed they obviously won't need the assistance anymore). The target goal of course being that the social program
funds should be at least half of what they are now. This newly freed up money would then also go to pay down the debt.
This plan of mine effectively reduces military spending by over half while still having the biggest military budget in the world, cuts entitlement
programs by over half, AND improves our infrastructure. But of course my plan won't ever be implemented, it requires our military industrial complex
to slow down. Which they have no intention of letting happen.
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I thought Obama wouldn't tax the poor or the middle class?
You thought wrong, as I am sure many who voted for him have seen.
There have been folks on here warning of that for the last few years.
When he was first elected he passed a tax on roll your own cigarette tobacco. The price of a can shot up from about 10$ to about 30$. 99.99% of folks
that rool their own fall into the lower income areas. Anyway that move there was all one needed to know about what would come down the pike someday.
And this taxing of the rich deal of late, the evil 1% getting theirs was just to make you feel better when you got yours.
This is not a tax increase in social security taxes.
As a part of the Economic Stimulus Package by the Obama Administration, there was a two year break on the employee portion of SS contributions. If
you had looked at your pay check you would have seen that your employer was paying in at a higher rate then you were. It has always been an even
split between employee and employer contributions. The total amount paid in is 13% of gross social security wages 6.5 % paid my the employee and 6.5
% paid by the employer. NOTE that YOU only pay 6.5 % - do not call this a 13% tax on YOU. I believe the stimulus was 2.0% off the employee portion
(your employer still paid in the full amount) and it expired on January 1 of this year.
That extra money you had over the last two years was a FREE BONUS that you received from the Obama Administration.
I was against it at the time becuase I knew that people would whine and complain about this when it expired. \
I'm appalled that a major newspaper is twisting this situation to create anger and rage amongst those who don't pay attention to this stuff (most of
I railed against Bush when he sat in a school on 9/11/01 for a few minutes before getting up and leaving. He stated it was because he didn't want to
alarm the children by rushing out of the door. I called that BS at the time and I still call it BS now. In reality he was crapping a load in his
shorts because he realized how badly he dropped the ball, and anyone who doesn't recognize that is blind.
Now I know many here railed along with me against Bush for that inaction, hell Moore even made a multi-million dollar gross at the box office over
that moment; but if those same people are now making excuses about Obama for his inaction on 9/11/12, and subsequent fairy tales over the matter
including a ridiculous claim that it was caused by youtube more than a week later in front of the UN, you are a hypocrite and a stooge blinded to a
greater degree than even the most ardent Bush supporter.
On my car I have a Buck Fush bumper sticker on the right side and a Buck Ofama sticker on the left.
Overall though, I think Obama's been far worse. Obama's 2012 NDAA is Bush's treasonous Patriot Act on freaking steroids. And speaking of the Bush
Patriot Act (which candidate Obama didn't support) the moment Obama, within weeks of his inauguration, not only resigned but strengthened Bush's
Patriot Act I knew we were up crap creek as a country and he was an out and out phony.
How any body can stand to defend this traitor is beyond me. He's not a traitor to Republicans, he's a traitor to those that voted for him and
trusted him...the way he's acting is exactly how the Republicans said he would act, so he's not a traitor to them as traitor by definition involves
broken trust. If they never trusted him he can't betray them.
Under Bush we were authorizing ridiculous foreign wire taps and water boarding. That was terrible. Under Obama we're talking about dead US
ambassadors, detention of American civilians with out any notification or due process including within US borders, executive kill lists of American
civilians, removing a citizens last line of defense from such encroachments, and trillion dollar coins.
For the love of God, woman, and child the Obama sheople need to wake the eff up, he's using you to bury you! His lies regarding Benghazi and Fast and
Furious are the most silent of the wake up calls, but wake up calls none the less.You were duped, suck it up and admit it and quit with the self
denial in favor of this man or it will be to everyone's demise and it will be your demise first...
this whole f ing thing is a sham anyway, several large companies burried this country, two solutions
1 make the people who had no clue what was going, no chance to stop what was going, no chance to influence what was going, and not making any profit
from what was going on, PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
2 disolve the several large campanies and destroy the debt because it was done on purpose to put us in the position we are in now so was not done in
good faith from the start and should be ABOLISHED and disolved and anyone involved sent to prison to pay for crimes commited against america under
treason and terrorism.
if you were a bought governmnet which one would you choose?
now ask yourself.......... has your government been bought?
What a load of absolute nonsense, OP. I don't know whether you bothered to look at the USD chart before assuming this article was based in reality,
but the value of the dollar has IN-creased during the Obama presidency, not De-creased. We aren't losing Purchasing power rom the printing of money.
Also, it wasn't Obama's choice to allow the temporary payroll tax to expire. In case you hadn't noticed, the House of Representatives, controlled
by Republicans, demanded that concession in order to agree to renew the income tax cuts which were set to expire.
Its true, more money is coming out of paychecks, but the blame doesn't lie with Obama - in fact, it was either that or a much larger increase in the
form of higher income tax rates. Also, the value of the dollar is increasing, which is the opposite of what the referenced article states.
You thought Obamalamadingd ong wouldn't tax EVERYBODY? You're kidding right? He created class warfare and started a huge smackdown of the
wealthy as if its their fault the government can't live within its means, then taxed everyone. Guess what? He's doing just what he said he'd do -
spend more of our tax dollars and tax more of our income. Do you see where he's taking us? It's clear to me and that's why I did not vote for
what little tax the poor do pay.... the illegals and welfare class get back in resources, child care credits, food stamps
Earned income credits generally are a $4k bonanza for most of the nonconventional households at tax refund season
even the middle class, well at least the 1st tier of 'middle class' are accessing resources like the EBT food stamp 'entitlement' the EB T program
delivery system administered by a few of the TBTF banks now have close to 50 million recipients--- up from the 20~ million or so that were sponsered
when President Øbama took office in 2008
Mexico is even being bombed with american guarantees that free food and health resources, also easy drivers licenses and immediate voting rights are
their for the taking IF they will only join the northern migration to the USA
the $1.3 trillion deficits are paying for undeserved entitlements along with unethical, unwarrented conflicts and assassination drones all oiver the
world... the 'Lotus Eater' party voters get more than their fair share thats foe sure
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Originally posted by orionthehunter
Health care taxes are going up next year as well thanks to Obama and his supporters. I think the secret plan is to make employer sponsored health
insurance not be competitive due to high taxes owed the government so that everyone ends up on an expensive government plan. If you don't sign up
for insurance, thanks to Obama, you'll have to pay thousands depending upon your family size. The Supreme Court said it was a tax and all perfectly
But if you actually poor you will be paying nothing. Another lie.
FICA taxes are at the exact same level as when Obama took office.
If people would stop to think instead of just hate we wouldn't have to constantly correct them.
Originally posted by xedocodex
The payroll tax isn't an increase...it is a return to normal.
The Right Wing complained when Obama put this payroll tax relief into place because they cried about the deficit...now it expires (like it always was
supposed to), and they are acting outraged and surprised by it.
If any of you in this thread are outraged or surprised that the payroll tax went back to normal...you only have your own ignorance to blame, because
everyone should have known that this was TEMPORARY.
Already plenty of threads on Obama's tax INCREASE!! Ask him why he neglected to extend his tax holiday to continue to benefit the Middle Class that
he claims to fight for... He could have extended it but let it go.www.abovetopsecret.com...
Back to normal. Give me a break... There is no normal any longer. Just like Obama's unemployment numbers when he was sworn in for the second term.
7.8% Back to "normal" just were he was when he started his first term. NET ZERO... from a man who pledged to SLASH the deficit in half in his
first term... create new jobs on top of existing jobs to actually stop the LOSS!!... So many things to be proud of...
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