The Atheist and The Ape


###The atheist has only evolution to believe in... and the evolutionist has only the ape to believe in.

The Gulf that divides the creationist from the atheist is so wide that the only logical conclusion is to accept that dedicated atheists do indeed evolve from primates and that dedicated creationists are indeed created by God.

This is not as silly as it sounds. Why would an atheist feel so in tune with the primates unless they are actually related?

And why would a creationist feel so close to God unless they are of God?

It is not a matter of one being right and the other being wrong. Let us agree to agree and put a stop to all the bickering once and for all.

The evolutionists have every right to pursue their ancestral links just as the creationists have every right to celebrate God their creator without both sides mocking and slandering each other.

Its a disgrace. Lets adopt the golden rule and show respect for each other and not succumb to discrimination and prejudice just because someone is different.

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Originally posted by Shema
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It is not a matter of one being right and the other being wrong.

Actually yes, it is indeed about who is right.

Once you get away from imaginary feelings and beliefs inside peoples heads, the actual reality is that in the past a thing actually happened, and it is the duty of humans with curiosity and natural inquisitiveness to work out the truth.
Even if some people are going to be upset when they find they are wrong.

If you want to learn about the origins of man and our relation to apes, take a primatology course and an evolution course. You'd be surprised to find there is a huge amount of evidence that we did, indeed, evolve over millions of years from chimpanzees. This is documented by the fact that we're discovered the bones of human-chimp hybrid species in the Rift Valley of Africa, as well as other hominids like Neanderthals.

Evolution is, in a nutshell, adaptation, and it's a slow, brutal process of endless trial and error via genetic mutations. We're actually evolving now; we're becoming less hairy, we're losing our appendixes, and we're losing our wisdom teeth. Why? Because we're losing the need for said things; we have clothes that keep us warm during winter, and we consume soft, safe foods which don't require the appendix or those extra teeth. If you look into Darwin's findings in the Galapagos, he observed that birds who live on fruit bearing islands had beaks suited for eating fruit. Birds who lived on other islands, whose diet consisted of insects, had sharper beaks well suited for catching said insects.

All species adapt over time to their environment and changes therein; I don't know where creationists get the nerve to deny this statement and say evolution is false. You should challenge your beliefs to see if they can hold water.

Well, at least the evolutionists are related to a flesh and blood ancestor.

The creationists are related to a weightless invisible cloud person of which which there are thousands of versions, and therefore that's as much weight as their theory also carries.

Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
If you want to learn about the origins of man and our relation to apes, take a primatology course and an evolution course. You'd be surprised to find there is a huge amount of evidence that we did, indeed, evolve over millions of years from chimpanzees.

You mean that humans and chimpanzees evolved from a common ancestor? Not that humans evolved from chimps.

Well, the thread was written to inspire reaction - ahh, no not S&Fs, this is not a trolling exercise.
The atheists have gone on the defensive, not surprisingly, but hardly a peep from the opposite quarter.

FaceLift reacted like a child might; alfal was indignant, DDD felt a need to justify evolution, Lucid Lucy pointed out the contradictions in the thread according to her reading while halfoldman put creation down; BrokenCircles follows a similar vein to halfoldman; Spookycolt sees a fence we could maybe all sit on.

Ah well!. But not to despair. When the dust settles we might yet get some communication going. After all, we all live in hope regardless of where we come from.

what if God, is a monkey
he created man in his image {monkey} and then the monkey men developed into us humans
yeeah, I cracked it

belief implies a lack of knowledge,
unfortunately belief in false dogma is not without consequence.
If i were to entertain the abrahamic notion of a creator God, It would impress me a great deal more, that "he" created evolving systems.

I'm all for evolution and God.

It's fairly apparent man evolved from the same creature as the ape, but our consciousness has to be the result of a higher power.

I think therefore I am.

I think the whole idea of God has been lost through religion though, there has to be some truth to the bible(old testament)/koran etc etc, but most of it is most likely made up through wild imagination.