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reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 04:40 PM by darrylss
reply to post by riverwild



LOL Oh the Devastation! LOL... I wish we only got 2 feet of snow..from a Canadians perspective, this is very comical! hahahah
YOu call its a snow storm, its called a Winter wonderland here LOL

A Winter Wonderland – Roddickton, Newfoundland & Labrador




reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 04:42 PM by Spookycolt
reply to post by darrylss



Yes but your more prepared to deal with it up there and don't have nearly the amount of infrastructure that can be affected.

Life doesn't really stop if your forest gets blanketed in snow.

For those that are living in the NE take your precautions and stay safe. Buy some extra Hot Chocolate!



reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 04:49 PM by riverwild
Originally posted by darrylss
reply to
post by riverwild



LOL Oh the Devastation! LOL... I wish we only got 2 feet of snow..from a Canadians perspective, this is very comical! hahahah
YOu call its a snow storm, its called a Winter wonderland here LOL

A Winter Wonderland – Roddickton, Newfoundland & Labrador



WOW!!!!

That's quite a picture!

Those in the NE would have no idea how to handle snow like that.


reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 04:56 PM by riverwild
reply to post by Spookycolt



Well said.

The National Weather Service has warned that travel in Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island could become nearly impossible.

If power goes out, banks & ATMs may be offline for some time. Be sure to have cash on hand.

Stay indoors during the storm.
Conserve fuel, if necessary, by keeping your residence cooler than normal. Temporarily close off heat to some rooms.


reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 06:14 PM by LoneGunMan
reply to post by illuminatedobserver



Not true. Only a handful of planets show a warming trend. Most of those have very long orbits, Neptune has not even yet to make a full circuit of the sun since its discovery in 1846. The sun has actually been cooling for the past 50 years.

Ask yourself why you and others have been fed bad info.


reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 06:52 PM by Kali74
reply to post by illuminatedobserver



Actually we get every kind of weather here. We're very used to snow storms, bad ones... just have barely had any snow to speak of the last few years, but we haven't forgotten how to deal with them. But no, we're not going to ignore the severity of a storm nor are we not going to talk about it, or make it sound all pretty for you because you're paranoid someone's going to say it's because of global warming... funny how you are the first and now that you've gone and done it we're all going to have pay taxes on carbon and Al Gore is going to be President of the world.

FYI the sun has been in a cool cycle and the other planets are not warming, just earth.


reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 07:41 PM by FriedBabelBroccoli
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
reply to
post by illuminatedobserver



Not true. Only a handful of planets show a warming trend. Most of those have very long orbits, Neptune has not even yet to make a full circuit of the sun since its discovery in 1846. The sun has actually been cooling for the past 50 years.
Ask yourself why you and others have been fed bad info.


Well there is also the factor of the Earth's magnetic field and solar winds and weather with base data going back some 5000 years.

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study
www.viewzone.com...

The results of the study, which has also been published in US scientific journal Geology, lend support to a controversial theory published a decade ago by Danish astrophysicist Henrik Svensmark, who claimed the climate was highly influenced by galactic cosmic ray (GCR) particles penetrating the earth's atmosphere.

Svensmark's theory, which pitted him against today's mainstream theorists who claim carbon dioxide (CO2) is responsible for global warming, involved a link between the earth's magnetic field and climate, since that field helps regulate the number of GCR particles that reach the earth's atmosphere.

"The only way we can explain the (geomagnetic-climate) connection is through the exact same physical mechanisms that were present in Henrik Svensmark's theory," Knudsen said.

"If changes in the magnetic field, which occur independently of the earth's climate, can be linked to changes in precipitation, then it can only be explained through the magnetic field's blocking of the cosmetic rays," he said.




Climate Change and the Earth's Magnetic Poles, A Possible Connection
Author: Kerton, Adrian K.
Source: Energy & Environment, Volume 20, Numbers 1-2, January 2009 , pp. 75-83(9)
Publisher: Multi-Science Publishing Co Ltd
Abstract:
Many natural mechanisms have been proposed for climate change during the past millennia, however, none of these appears to have accounted for the change in global temperature seen over the second half of the last century. As such the rise in temperature has been attributed to man made mechanisms. Analysis of the movement of the Earth's magnetic poles over the last 105 years demonstrates strong correlations between the position of the north magnetic, and geomagnetic poles, and both northern hemisphere and global temperatures. Although these correlations are surprising, a statistical analysis shows there is a less than one percent chance they are random, but it is not clear how movements of the poles affect climate. Links between changes in the Earth's magnetic field and climate change, have been proposed previously although the exact mechanism is disputed. These include: The Earth's magnetic field affects the energy transfer rates from the solar wind to the Earth's atmosphere which in turn affects the North Atlantic Oscillation. Movement of the poles changes the geographic distribution of galactic and solar cosmic rays, moving them to particularly climate sensitive areas. Changes in distribution of ultraviolet rays resulting from the movement of the magnetic field, may result in increases in the death rates of carbon sinking oceanic plant life such as phytoplankton.

Keywords: MAGNETIC POLES; DRIFT; CLIMATE; COSMIC RAYS
Document Type: Research article
DOI: 10.1260/095830509787689286


This of course would disrupt a massive effort to create a world government via environmentalism and carbon credits. LoL Carbon 12 (6-protons 6- neutrons 6-electrons) hahahahaha.



reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 08:13 PM by Kali74
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli



Debate updates
More recently, Laken et al (2012)[30] found that new high quality satellite data show that the El_Niño–Southern_Oscillation is responsible for most changes in cloud cover at the global and regional levels. They also found that Galactic Cosmic Rays, and total solar irradiance did not have any statistically-significant influence on changes in cloud cover whatsoever.
Lockwood (2012)[31] conducted a thorough review of the scientific literature on the "solar influence" on climate. It was found that when this influence is included appropriately into climate models causal climate change claims such as those made by Svensmark are shown to have been exaggerated. Lockwood's review also highlighted the strength of evidence in favor of the solar influence on regional climates.


wiki

People need to understand that just because a paper is published doesn't mean it is valid or proved. This theory didn't pass peer review.


reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 08:55 PM by FriedBabelBroccoli
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to
post by FriedBabelBroccoli



Debate updates
More recently, Laken et al (2012)[30] found that new high quality satellite data show that the El_Niño–Southern_Oscillation is responsible for most changes in cloud cover at the global and regional levels. They also found that Galactic Cosmic Rays, and total solar irradiance did not have any statistically-significant influence on changes in cloud cover whatsoever.
Lockwood (2012)[31] conducted a thorough review of the scientific literature on the "solar influence" on climate. It was found that when this influence is included appropriately into climate models causal climate change claims such as those made by Svensmark are shown to have been exaggerated. Lockwood's review also highlighted the strength of evidence in favor of the solar influence on regional climates.

wiki

People need to understand that just because a paper is published doesn't mean it is valid or proved. This theory didn't pass peer review.


Agreed.

But you left out this part:


On 25 August 2011, the first result of the experiment were published . . .The results also show that ionization from cosmic rays significantly enhances aerosol formation.


From Lockwood:

Professor Michael Lockwood
www.met.reading.ac.uk...

(2012) Solar influence on global and regional climates.
centaur.reading.ac.uk...

The best estimates of the solar influence on the global mean air surface temperature show relatively small effects, compared with the response to anthropogenic changes (and broadly in line with their respective radiative forcings). However, the situation is more interesting when one looks at regional and season variations around the global means. In particular, recent research indicates that winters in Eurasia may have some dependence on the Sun, with more cold winters occurring when the solar activity is low. Advances in modelling ‘‘top-down’’ mechanisms, whereby stratospheric changes influence the underlying troposphere, offer promising explanations of the observed phenomena.



www.eiscat.rl.ac.uk...

1 Introduction
Solar electromagnetic radiation powers Earth’s climate system and, consequently, it is
often naı¨vely thought that changes in this solar output must be responsible for changes in
Earth’s climate.


I was talking about the Earth's magnetic field which has been shown weaken and vary dramatically.

This is a nice little graph to demonstrate what I am talking about:

Ice Core temperatures (bottom) compared to inverted or negative magnetic field strength (top) (from Wikipedia).



reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 09:29 PM by greatpiino
reply to post by Night Star



Yeah, the wind is really starting to pick up, making me nervous about losing power. But at least this time if it gets knocked out for a few days again, we can just put everything from the freezer outside so it's not all wasted. I remember when Irene passed through, I had to eat like 4 containers of ice cream just so they wouldn't go to waste
edit on 8-2-2013 by greatpiino because: spelling



reply posted on 8-2-2013 @ 10:00 PM by WildWorld
Originally posted by darrylss
reply to
post by riverwild



LOL Oh the Devastation! LOL... I wish we only got 2 feet of snow..from a Canadians perspective, this is very comical! hahahah
YOu call its a snow storm, its called a Winter wonderland here LOL

A Winter Wonderland – Roddickton, Newfoundland & Labrador


It's not just about the depth of snow. Winds are 60-70mph In some areas causing downed trees and power outages and large snow drifts. The coast gets flooding and beach erosion has caused a lot of problems for some. People have died in these conditions.
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