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That the "security guard" was employed by an outside firm, is irrelevant. Why do we need armed guards at an FDA facility at all?
To the extent that they do have a reasonable justification for the armed security, they hire a firm that employes 15 year old kids?
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Northshore School District spokeswoman Leanna Albrecht says the 15-year-old is a student at the Secondary Academy for Success, an alternative high school adjacent to the FDA office building. Read more: www.komonews.com...
Seeking a diagonal shortcut, I once inadvertently rode thru the parking lot in question only to get chased down by an armed guard with a nasty disposition.
In response to to his authoritative ranting, pointed at my headphones & shrugged shoulders while exiting the lot. Rode by on the fronting road to feel his glare, hand on sidepiece.
Never entered that lot again; always left suspiciously curious about the nature of activity therein. Now, even more so
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by dolphinfan
How do we know the kid didnt have a gun?
There was plenty of time for him to toss a weapon after an attempted break in.edit on 8-2-2013 by Wertdagf because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Hijinx
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
The kid was acting suspiciously. Now I know, I may not think a guy cooking the flesh of some unknown being over his radiator but others may, and vice versa lol.
So that is really situational and personal in a sense, how ever the kid fled on foot when approached by the security guards. Later, when he returned and was approached by the pair again he ran to his car, and then while trying to make his escape struck one of the guards with his car, at which point a guard opened fire on the vehicle. The teen was struck in the foot and made his escape.
Don't blow things out of proportion, think of it this way, you can get shot by a cop for simply not listening to instructions, and if you drove your car into another officer they would both attempt to kill you likely emptying every round they had in the service weapons. This kid is lucky, I feel the guard attempted to protect the life on himself as well as his colleague.
Why was the Teen on Private property? School near by or not it's private property, the guards were likely gonna ask what he was doing there, and ask him to leave why flee as he did? Assholes or not, until he rammed his car into anyone he wasn't in danger.
Originally posted by Hijinx
It's come to my attention from the article I skimmed, that the boy struck one of the security guards with his car. Running down someone with a car, is a pretty good reason for said person to open fire. A car can be a weapon, and this instance I'm sure the security guard feared for his life and that of his colleagues. The 15 year old, was acting suspicious and when approached ran away, to later come back jump in his car and strike a security guard with it. Both the 15 year old and security guard are lucky to be alive.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
My brother in law is a VA security. He is a federal officer, and on his little tiny 2 road campus he drives a police interceptor version sedan to enforce the security of his campus. He is a federal employee paid by the VA.
From what I understand, in this story, it is not federal officers. It is security guards from a third party.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Let me ask you, however....would you have opened fire on this kid given the details of the story as we know them? Do you believe shooting at him while he fled is appropriate, in your training?
Originally posted by dolphinfan
We now have the EPA, DHS, HUD and now the FDA with armed personnel and in some cases outright SWAT-like forces. What could a reasonable justification for having armed security guards at a FDA facility in a rural area like Bothell, WA? What are they protecting and what threat could an unarmed kid who has connections and relationships with the security firm represent?
That the "security guard" was employed by an outside firm, is irrelevant. Why do we need armed guards at an FDA facility at all? To the extent that they do have a reasonable justification for the armed security, they hire a firm that employes 15 year old kids?
Something here makes absolutely no sense.
www.seattlepi.com
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Originally posted by kimish
reply to post by Xcathdra
Well said. I too back the guards actions.
It's not like they knew the perp was 15 to begin with. Also, the vehicle was used as a weapon when it struck the guard.
I feel that this kid needs punished to the fullest. Todays youth are severely misguided with no common sense, respect or courtesy for others.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I once accidentally hit my father in laws house with my van when first married. Does that mean i was using my car as a tool for demolition?
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by Xcathdra
If anyone attacks you for your response, I got your back. Even though we disagree (quite often), you are one of the "good guys" in my estimation. And your input is necessary as often as possible.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Having said that, is it deadly force when a horribly inexperienced driver accidentally hits someone?
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
From what I read in the article, it doesn't sound like the officer had any real injury.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Is it deadly force if the guys ran up behind him while he is backing up and get struck, or is that just an accident spurred by his desire to not make contact?
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Moreover, why would we call them officers without commission?
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
And for the record, regardless of state law in Texas, if i choose to talk to securty it is a courtesy i extend. Not a requirement I am bound to.