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I am stating the FACT that he didn't attend his security briefings. As for proof of that .. use the search function here
Originally posted by 35Foxtrot
reply to post by xedocodex
Sorry. But there's no way they KNEW at 1700 that there was absolutely nothing that could be done. You know what? Even if I knew there was nothing to do, I,as a commander, would BE THERE. Yes. Stay up all night. I've done it in the army and in my subsequent career. You're in goddamn command. You damn well better be present when the # hits the fan and people are dying. You hope against hope that SOMETHING comes to you, that some opportunity presents itself, that allows you to do something to help the situation. In hindsight you may know there was nothing to do (and that's the position you're arguing from) but in that moment, a LEADER is there, involved, in the hope that something CAN be done.
I can tell you dont get it.
Originally posted by xedocodex
Again, what would you have liked him to do?
Or continue to repeat what the Right Wing media tells you and parrot it every chance you get.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by xedocodex
Again with the FOX news comment. This isn't the Democratic Underground ya' know ...
Washington Post - Obama Skipped At Least Half His Security Briefings
He says that the president reads his PDB every day
Originally posted by xedocodex
Originally posted by 35Foxtrot
reply to post by xedocodex
Sorry. But there's no way they KNEW at 1700 that there was absolutely nothing that could be done. You know what? Even if I knew there was nothing to do, I,as a commander, would BE THERE. Yes. Stay up all night. I've done it in the army and in my subsequent career. You're in goddamn command. You damn well better be present when the # hits the fan and people are dying. You hope against hope that SOMETHING comes to you, that some opportunity presents itself, that allows you to do something to help the situation. In hindsight you may know there was nothing to do (and that's the position you're arguing from) but in that moment, a LEADER is there, involved, in the hope that something CAN be done.
I can tell you dont get it.
All Americans were secure and evacuated 3 hours after the attack began.
I don't think you have a clear understanding of what happened...please go look at the timeline.
Originally posted by xedocodex
When you literally are repeating what Fox News hosts/contributors are saying...it's kind of hard not to comment on it....it's hilarious.
Kind of blows your BS out of the water.
Seriously, you guys need a productive hobby...irrational hate is not a healty past time.
I started off being thankful you could actually articulate your side. Little did I know it was just clever parroting of talking points. Ok. You fooled me.
Your argument (coming with the benefit of hindsight) misses the point. Obama did not in this case act as I expect a leader to act. I know leaders and leadership. I've gained the loyalty (and lifelong friendship) of others through the exercising of my leadership and through following some of the best men I've known. I'll stand by my assessment of a good leader. Obamas actions here do not typify such. That's not something I can explain to you, I guess.
You buy into the bull about him SUPPOSEDLY reading a bulleted piece of paper each day??
He needs to get off the freak'n golf course and to the job. But then again
Originally posted by xedocodex
reply to post by timetothink
Try 3 hours from start to finish...the last entry on the timeline is when Libyan forces regained control...but the response teams had already regained control of their buildings.
So...please tell me...what would you have liked Obama to do in response? Bomb something with Americans on the ground? Please don't say send in troops...do you honestly think that could happen in 3 hours?
You have no idea what you're talking about and it shows. It is also clear you're hear as an Obama apologist and are not interested in the truth. You my friend, can be ignored.
Originally posted by xedocodex
Originally posted by timetothink
Remember when Obama asked you who you would want answering that phone in three in the morning?
51% of the people picked him and he didn't answer it when it rang.
He ignored the call and people died!
It has nothing to do with anti Obama people.....it has to do with him!
Tell me, what could Obama have done to stop the attack?
The attacks were quick 15-45 minutes long...and spread out over 6 hours.
Obama is not Superman...no matter how much you hate Obama...this wasn't an event to mobilize the entire military or start bombing people.
Obama made the correct call..there was nothing to do...people died because of our foreign policy over the last two decades...not because of Obama not sending in the entier military in response to a very very small attack.