Originally posted by Turkenstein
reply to post by FlyersFan
All the parents of those thugs should be the ones paying for all the victim's hospital bills. Hit them in the wallet and they will rein in those
monsters pretty damn quick.
i do agree with the sentiment of having the parents pay, it seems
like it would be a good idea and cause parents to deal with their kids. BUT
what can a parent realistically do in these P.C.
to ban them from tv and x-box? it seems that that is the only way that is left
to try to discipline kids anymore. can't "spank" them, that's considered physical abuse. can't even yell at them because that is mental
abuse. in all honesty i'm almost surprised that you can still "ground" children from doing things they want these days as being detrimental to
even punishment by grounding the has some severe issues these days. how do you be sure your kids aren't doing what they are grounded from doing when
chances are the parent isn't even there a good chunk of the time due to the necessity
of having to work, especially those ONE parent families
that has become much more common? having either the child at home alone or spending most of their time in school and before/after school care, with
the parent(s) basically just seeing them enough to feed them super and put them to bed. rather hard to use "grounding" as a punishment when you
aren't there to do anything.
a friend of mine who had an older child (old enough to be home on his own), was having issues with him and grounded him from using the computer.
first she tried "locking down" the computer but he either cracked the passwords or hacked his way in. she tried taking the keyboard (the only real
part of a desktop that she was able to easily take, especially in the days of CRT monitors), with her to work in order to enforce it. all the kid did
was to either buy or borrow one from a friend and hid it before she got home. she even tried locking the door to the computer room but he just broke
in. finally she had no choice but to give up on something that was punishing HER more than the kid. if someone is not there to insure
punishment is followed, kids will just find ways around it.
so while in the "old days" holding a parent responsible could work, what real TOOLS does a parent of today have to discourage and correct bad
? as such HOW can you even think of holding a parent responsible for a child's behavior? how can you hold a parent responsible when they
don't even get to spend the time they would like and is NEEDED to deal with behavior issues because they are stuck working a job instead of at home
with their child?
when looked at i see problems like bullying, theft, gangs, shootings etc, are actually CAUSED and at the same time unable to be properly dealt with
because of the direction our society is going. between the lack of the ability to effectively discipline children. as well as the lack of actual
PARENT (not some institutional care) having the proper time to raise, discipline and properly care for their children. until these two very important
issues are corrected i see no end to most of the issues that are becoming the norm. it will mean more people in jail, more people with mental issues,
more death more destruction etc because of kids going out of control, just because they are not ABLE to be raised in a proper caring setting. due to
rules and the fact that no one is even there to do it.
changing rules on discipline/abuse would not be all that hard. but what will it take for a family to be able to live on ONE INCOME so that ONE PARENT
is there FOR their kids when they are not in school, and even worse how to be able to have one parent home when there is only the one parent, is much
harder. especially today where a lot of jobs are not 9-3
(school hours) when a lot of companies go far beyond that having odd and extremely
unstable scheduling that changes week to week based on what a "company needs" that can be anywhere from say 7 am to midnight and any day of the week
(as my last job started doing more and more) pretty much at random. then add on to that the distance people now travel as their work is in one area
yet AFFORDABLE housing is far enough away that even travel to and from work may take a couple hours each way, due to traffic, long distance and even
the extreme length of time it takes if you are reliant on public transit to travel.