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Originally posted by yourmaker
Seriously guys I read multiple things in this thread that most of you repeated more then once..
There is no justification for the police to shoot without due process.
It's illegal, therefore ultimatums need to start being declared to the LAPD and anyone propping them up..
Originally posted by g146541
Originally posted by unfor54k3n
Question for you gun knowledgeable folks out there, i have lived in LA most of my life and i have NEVER seen police equipped with Silencer or Flash suppressors. Are these flash suppressor they are using? If they are silencers or flash suppressors that is pretty strange because i didn't think police could use them? Anyone know?
These are silencers or suppressors, they suppress sound.
Not to be confused with a flash suppressor which dissipates the muzzle flash of a weapon, only needed in night time or dark area firefights.
The only use for a suppressor would be for hostage type negotiations or the like where you may need to kill someone quietly.
In my opinion I see no need for these officers to have sound suppressors, very curious why they have them.
Nice catch there, just what are they hunting for or looking to do with those?
LAPD black ops anyone?
"I don't want to use the word buffoonery but it really is unbridled police lawlessness," said Robert Sheahen, Perdue's attorney. "These people need training and they need restraint."
"As you know, officers of the Torrance Police Department attempted to kill Mr. Perdue" Thursday, the attorneys wrote in a letter to the agency's chief.
"The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances — and these were far from normal circumstances — to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk. "In the split seconds available to them," the statement continued, "action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle."
The Torrance police chief apologized to Perdue and offered him a rental car and payment for his medical expenses, the statement said.
A few minutes later, a truck slowly rolled down the quiet residential street.
As the vehicle approached the house, officers opened fire, unloading a barrage of bullets into the back of the truck. When the shooting stopped, they quickly realized their mistake. The truck was not a Nissan Titan, but a Toyota Tacoma. The color wasn't gray, but aqua blue. And it wasn't Dorner inside the truck, but a woman and her mother delivering copies of the Los Angeles Times.
LAPD Chief Charlie Beck outlined the most detailed account yet of how the shooting unfolded. Margie Carranza, 47, and her mother, Emma Hernandez, 71, were the victims of "a tragic misinterpretation" by officers working under "incredible tension," he said.
Beck and others...declined to say how many officers were involved, what kind of weapons they used, how many bullets were fired and, perhaps most important, what kind of verbal warnings — if any — were given to the women before the shooting began.
Law enforcement sources told The Times that at least seven officers opened fire. On Friday, the street was pockmarked with bullet holes in cars, trees, garage doors and roofs. Residents said they wanted to know what happened.
Glen T. Jonas, the attorney representing the women, said the police officers gave "no commands, no instructions and no opportunity to surrender" before opening fire.
He described a terrifying encounter...As bullets tore through the cabin, the two women "covered their faces and huddled down," Jonas said. "They felt like it was going on forever."
"How do you mistake two Hispanic women, one who is 71, for a large black male?" said Richard Goo, 62, who counted five bullet holes in the entryway to his house.
Though Beck said he does not doubt the women did not hear any verbal commands, he emphasized that it was still possible the officers did attempt to stop the vehicle before opening fire.
After the investigation is completed, Beck and an oversight board will decide if officers were justified in the shooting or made mistakes that warrant either punishment or training.
Originally posted by Manhater
Glad no one was hurt.
Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by ownbestenemy
Considering the vehicle they are looking for has been toast for a couple of days...
I'll try to find a link.
Ahhh I see, it is the other guy on the same day, yep cops are running skeered.
I also see that they have a 1 million dollar bounty on the officer.
Yep, they scared.
I hope no more civillians have to pay for police officers fear.