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Originally posted by unfor54k3n
Question for you gun knowledgeable folks out there, i have lived in LA most of my life and i have NEVER seen police equipped with Silencer or Flash suppressors. Are these flash suppressor they are using? If they are silencers or flash suppressors that is pretty strange because i didn't think police could use them? Anyone know?
Originally posted by Vikus
Originally posted by g146541
These cops who played shoot em up at the ok corral are in deep doo doo.
If deep doo doo means that they will be suspended with pay and temporarily reassigned desk jobs, you might be right.
LAPD covers their own.
The only difference between the LAPD and the Grape Street Crips or MS-13 is the tax payer funding.
Originally posted by Marrey
can anyone make this stuff end? i mean why police is behaving like this in every place of the world?? 15 years ago wasn't like this.
Originally posted by nottellingooh.. someone's been getting shiny things from the DRMO's law enforcement program. They are military-issue SOPMOD M4 assault rifles with some aftermarket tacti-cool tosser stuff tacked on. Here's the SOPMOD kit: img.imtwelve.com... Here's some further info about the DoD's DRMO Law Enforcement program - www.dispositionservices.dla.mil... Militarizing your local law enforcement - one surplus-to-requirements firearm at a time. Good news for the criminals though - used to be an Olympic Arms semi-auto AR-15 carried by the police as a patrol rifle. Now it's a full-on military select-fire M4 carbine. Should be worth a pretty penny on LA's weapons black market. It makes LAPD officers and their vehicles nice, profitable targets for criminals to hit. Man, some agencies are staffed by freakin' idiots. Edit: the things hanging off the muzzle of the weapons are SOCOM flash/sound suppressors. The year 2001 called - they want their formerly state-of-the-art military weapon accessories back. Quite unfashionable.
Originally posted by unfor54k3n Question for you gun knowledgeable folks out there, i have lived in LA most of my life and i have NEVER seen police equipped with Silencer or Flash suppressors. Are these flash suppressor they are using? If they are silencers or flash suppressors that is pretty strange because i didn't think police could use them? Anyone know?edit on 9-2-2013 by nottelling because: (no reason given)edit on 9-2-2013 by nottelling because: Grammar[/qoute]
Originally posted by nottelling
Originally posted by unfor54k3n
reply to post by nottelling
wowzers! thanks for the info, so thats where our hard earned tax dollars are going lol, jeez i didn't think an officer would need a silencer/flash suppressor for taking down criminals. When i think of silencers i think hit squads spec ops etc. Getting into an area to kill and move around quietly not your average officer doing a standard police take down.
I know. It's crazy.
Worst part is, these aren't SWAT cops, these are normal beat cops and these are their issued weapons. This I can tell from the lack of any real customization on the weapons. Plain jane stock and pistol grip, SOPMOD Block 2 (?) railed fore-end and I thought I saw a PMAG (which could have also come through DRMO).
No highly-trained surgically-precise full-time doorkickers there. These dudes in the photo are garden-variety beat cops. Poorly trained with such weapons and (as has been proven by two separate non-righteous shootings during this manhunt) they are frightened and panicky and armed to the teeth with military weaponry. Please, if you're in LA stay away from ALL cops. Don't even make eye contact with one.
This whole thing is a powder keg. Dorner needs to off himself if only to prevent more innocents being shot by frightened girlymen police.
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
I appeal to all, to Doner's family, relatives and friends, to advise him to surrender.
He is a cop and child killer. I know that one is innocent till proven guilty, but there are many valid reasons that laid the murders to him.
Surrender up, and face a fair trial as all americans have, an entitlement under the Constitution.
He may have greivences, and I do comprehend them, espacially for soldiers whom had served with honor, then joined the police forces.
It is a different culture, one from war where enemies are clearly define and heirachy often far more honest, then the civilian police group where the enemies are less defined in their everyday wear and commonalities, even within mis-managed govt depts with a culture of its own, grey areas, to pacify and serve all.
But there are legal avenues for one to report upon if the chain of command refuses or even interdict a whistleblower. Vengence and Killing another, more so innocent ones including those whom are doing their duty, is dead wrong. Once first blood is shed, there can be.....no turning back......on both sides.
If it is justice and the whistleblowing on the LAPD he wants, he can still surrender, just not in LA whereby he would be summararily shot and executed, or even in self serving DC. There are other states that he can depend on whereby no prejudice will be the course for those whom only seeks for honesty and integrity.
Precious humans had their lives snuffed out, and the price must be paid. There can be sympathy and compassion, but the killings must end, and it can only come from surrendering and redemption, and others will make sure that TRUE justice is served. This is America, not Iran or Russia whereby justice and rule of law are jokes by the rulers.
Originally posted by gangdumstyle
Puts a whole new perspective on "SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER" I guess they could not be bothered with even identifying the logo...
...[the] victims of "a tragic misinterpretation" by officers working under "incredible tension,"
"How do you mistake two Hispanic women, one who is 71, for a large black male?" said Richard Goo, 62, who counted five bullet holes in the entryway to his house.
...the gunfire occurred in two bursts: The first came from an officer positioned down the block from the LAPD official's residence, and the second when Carranza accelerated away from the gunfire and toward other officers.