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Originally posted by johnsky
And the ability to drop a building in case of collapse would only be used at the very last second...
...and they'd assume everyone inside the building dead.
Trust me, if the bottom hadn't failed, there'd be alot fewer survivors outside the buildings.
I know motives are a little hard to grasp here, but...
Like I said, its not exactly a happy thought to process... and its extremely hard to digest... but it would be a necessary concern to prepare for.
So when do you surmise that they rigged the buildings up?
Why would they assume that? There were plenty of survivors still in the buildings, not to mention firefighters and police.
How do you figure that? There were many, many people killed by the falling debris which showered all over Manhattan, as opposed to a toppling "cap" which would have landed on just one of the fours sides.
The motive you suggest isn't hard to grasp at all, it's simply hard to accept and doesn't make any sense. Why would they rig up the buildings to collapse in the event of them collapsing on their own, when no steel-structured building had ever collapsed before in the history of mankind? It'd be like spending millions to insure your house against being eaten by Godzilla. Are you suggesting that this "rig it to blow just in case it's going to fall over by itself" policy is common practice? If so, does that mean that all skyscrapers in the US are rigged up for instantaneous demolition?
The premise of your hypothesis is that it would be "a necessary concern to prepare for", when it is clear it would be nothing of the sort. And it being not a happy thought to process goes nowhere towards making it true either. The thought of Godzilla eating my house isn't a happy one either, coz I just painted the eaves!
Personally I am of the opinion that the towers were blown. As for the motive, I can only take wild guesses...US hegemony...peak oil...NWO...Biblical Armaggedon...who the heck knows?! But of all the crazy motives I've seen suggested, yours, despite being the most mundane, seems to make the least sense of the lot when assessed in purely logical terms. Weird, huh?
Originally posted by HowardRoark
Specifically, what do you find to be disingenuous about my arguments?
Is it the fact that I back up my arguments with data and not uninformed speculation?
"Our [U.S.] Government... used [9/11 as an] excuse to pass *Unconstitutional Laws* and wage Wars resulting in (Record Corporate) Oil Profits.
This Atrocity (i.e. 9/11) is proving to advance the *Domestic Police State Agendas* and consolidate [or Annex] the Middle East's oil reserves.
Those wishing to implement World Government through their control over (Corporate) Finance, (Corporate) Media and Militaries are Guilty of most heinous crimes. "
Salem, initially believing that this was to be a sting operation, claimed that the FBI's original plan was for Salem to supply the conspirators with a harmless powder instead of actual explosive to build their bomb, but that the FBI chose to use him for other purposes instead.  He substantiated his claims with hundreds of hours of secretly-recorded conversations with his FBI handlers, made during discussions held after the bombings. They are currrently in possession of the FBI.
Dr. Whitehurst was asked the following questions in the course of his testimony, as mentioned in an official court transcript, page 16337:
Q: “During your examination of the bomb residue materials and the chemicals associated with the defendants, you became aware that the FBI agents investigating the case had developed a preliminary theory that the bomb that blew up the World Trade Center was a urea nitrate bomb?”
A: “Yes, that is correct.”
Q: “Did there come a time when you began to experience pressure from within the FBI to reach certain conclusions that supported that theory of the investigation?”
A: “Yes, that is correct.”
Q: “In other words, you began to experience pressure on you to say that the explosion was caused by a urea nitrate bomb?”
A: “Yes, that is correct.”
Q: “And you were aware that such a finding would strengthen the prosecution of the defendants who were on trial, who were going on trial in that case, correct?”
Special agent Frederic Whitehurst, the senior FBI explosives expert, was demoted to paint analysis.
See a striking, forgive the pun, commonality between the two separate events?
...Terrorists associated and connected with Al-Qaeda.
Originally posted by rich23
All I have to go on is instinct, and my instincts tell me to trust neither of these people, partly because of the Aussie site that pointed out that the servers for this board are military/government ones in Virginia.
Originally posted by Kinglizard
posted on 1-4-2004 at 16:39 - printer friendly 100 recent
I did a trace route on www.abovetopsecret.com... the Node Name is listed and maintained by the government.
whois.nic.mil (for military network information)
It was difficult to get the IP Address, It was spoofed and looped over 9 times. Anyway Langley, Virginia is where the CIA headquarters is. I�m more than concerned.