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posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by SilentKoala

Originally posted by SpearMint
Obey the law or lose your freedom

That's quite the oxymoron.


How so? Laws aren't necessarily related to freedom.


Laws created from a desire to control a minority are exactly related to freedom.

Peace


They take away your freedom to kill and rape. Is that a bad thing?


Pay attention to the issue at hand. You are so far off the topic that you are suiting up and putting on the badge. Exactly how every other law is created. "Quick, look over here" while we sign this into law.

Peace




posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by g146541
Conform or die!
Speaking of which, in before the thread closure.
T&C and all.


Die it is.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:33 AM
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Freedom is a subjective concept.

Humans are a commodity, go figure.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX

Originally posted by g146541
Conform or die!
Speaking of which, in before the thread closure.
T&C and all.


Die it is.


So losing all freedom along with your life is better than having some restrictions but being able to enjoy freedom for the most part? What a stupid thread.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by SilentKoala

Originally posted by SpearMint
Obey the law or lose your freedom

That's quite the oxymoron.


How so? Laws aren't necessarily related to freedom.


Laws created from a desire to control a minority are exactly related to freedom.

Peace


They take away your freedom to kill and rape. Is that a bad thing?


Pay attention to the issue at hand. You are so far off the topic that you are suiting up and putting on the badge. Exactly how every other law is created. "Quick, look over here" while we sign this into law.

Peace


I was responding to another persons reply on the same topic, restriction of freedom. Conversations flow, keep up.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:37 AM
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Generally I don't support laws that don't have a victim of crime or property. If it doesn't infringe directly on the rights of others it should be legal with few exceptions. More freedom, less government.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX

Originally posted by g146541
Conform or die!
Speaking of which, in before the thread closure.
T&C and all.


Die it is.


So losing all freedom along with your life is better than having some restrictions but being able to enjoy freedom for the most part? What a stupid thread.


I already DO live with "some restrictions."

But more and more restrictions flood in every day. Unneeded ones. THAT I'm not okay with.

Can't you crack your mind open? Just for a second?

Anything that opposes your beliefs is "stupid."


Not my fault you're brainwashed.

Besides that, isn't that the Grand Theft Auto San Andreas chick in your avatar?

And yet, breaking the law is bad, and you should bow to authority?




posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX

Originally posted by g146541
Conform or die!
Speaking of which, in before the thread closure.
T&C and all.


Die it is.


So losing all freedom along with your life is better than having some restrictions but being able to enjoy freedom for the most part? What a stupid thread.


You are still under the illusion that you are free and therefore call the thread 'Stupid'.

Or...you are under no illusion whatsoever...And that's even worse.

Jude11



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:39 AM
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Oh you just want the laws that make your life difficult, gone.

Just sounds like a whole bunch of first world whinging.

Go and live in North Korea if want to truly feel government tyranny.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX

Originally posted by g146541
Conform or die!
Speaking of which, in before the thread closure.
T&C and all.


Die it is.


So losing all freedom along with your life is better than having some restrictions but being able to enjoy freedom for the most part? What a stupid thread.


You are still under the illusion that you are free and therefore call the thread 'Stupid'.

Or...you are under no illusion whatsoever...And that's even worse.

Jude11


Freedom comes on multiple levels, the level we have to capped there for our benefit. What is it you want? I am under no illusion.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX
 


Oh you just want the laws that make your life difficult, gone.

Just sounds like a whole bunch of first world whinging.

Go and live in North Korea if want to truly feel government tyranny.





Just expressing my beliefs, it's not whining. YOU sound like the whiner, because you don't agree with me. Pop your thumb out of your mouth and get over it.

I've BEEN the victim of police brutality. There's nothing "first world" about that experience.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:45 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX
 


Oh you just want the laws that make your life difficult, gone.

Just sounds like a whole bunch of first world whinging.

Go and live in North Korea if want to truly feel government tyranny.



Spoken like a true patriot. Because remember, if you aren't with us, you're against us. Is that you Bush?

I believe the kool-aid flavor of the Month was cherry.


You want to see true Govt. tyranny with the intelligence to fool their own people and the World as well? Look inward. But not for long. It's all coming unraveled isn't it? Keep scrambling to justify...eventually even you will wake up.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:47 AM
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Why didn't you do something about it?

Who the hell get's run over by a cop and does nothing about it?

This in a country where you can get sued because you served a coffee that was too hot?!

Not buying it, there's more to the story than what you're telling us...



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX
 


Why didn't you do something about it?

Who the hell get's run over by a cop and does nothing about it?

This in a country where you can get sued because you served a coffee that was too hot?!

Not buying it, there's more to the story than what you're telling us...



My fiance and I were crossing a street, cop comes out of nowhere and takes me out.

No one knew his tag number, his name, anything.

If I had ANY of his information, then taking legal action (which I hate) might have been possible. But, I didn't.

PS; By the way, the old lady with the McDonalds coffee was a whiny ass loser, like everyone else who's profession is to sue corporations. I really hate people like that.
edit on 8-2-2013 by XxNightAngelusxX because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX
 


Why didn't you do something about it?

Who the hell get's run over by a cop and does nothing about it?

This in a country where you can get sued because you served a coffee that was too hot?!

Not buying it, there's more to the story than what you're telling us...



The real question is why this upstanding pillar of society didn't stand and admit to his wrongdoing? Why does a cop not have the same responsibility to face the consequences as a citizen?

Because he's above the law and has been granted that right by the encroaching police state and it's brotherhood of "We are better than you".

Jude11



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:57 AM
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I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about...

I really don't think you realise how good you north Americans have it.

The mere fact that you can speak ill of your government with no comeuppance speaks volumes...you take it for granted.

Oh and the whole "with us or against us" thing seems apt for the type of response you gave me.

Because I hold a different view, I am "drinking the kool aide" and am "asleep" and must be against you.

I'm neither with nor against you, but you clearly hold that attitude, as those personal attacks on me prove...



edit on 8/2/13 by Chadwickus because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by jude11
 


I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about...

edit on 8/2/13 by Chadwickus because: (no reason given)


Unless you live on this Continent, this part of your statement is absolutely true.

Jude11



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 01:03 AM
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Did you report it?

I agree that not stopping is terribly wrong on his part, which is why I'd do everything in my power to see him get his dues.

This is why we have laws, and cops aren't above the law.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 01:07 AM
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Unless you live on this Continent, this part of your statement is absolutely true.


Thought you had a little bit more integrity than this.

Your xenophobia is noted.



posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 01:08 AM
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PS; By the way, the old lady with the McDonalds coffee was a whiny ass loser, like everyone else who's profession is to sue corporations. I really hate people like that.


Something we can both agree on.







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