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Originally posted by colin42
I see nothing wrong with eating horse meat if that is what it is sold as. The fact is uncontrolled horse meat is being sold as beef.
This is not the fault of the consumer. It is a breach of faith from the producer. It is a fraud that is no less serious than printing counterfeit money and causes the same if not more harm
This is a site that is meant to be to pursue the truth. Expose lies and the misconduct and secrets of big business and corrupt government yet what I am seeing when frauds like this are exposed is acceptance and misplaced blame
This is why they don’t worry about being caught out. Why they still pollute our food with trans fats. These are true, real world conspiracies being exposed and people are shrugging their shoulders.
Originally posted by MystikMushroom
reply to post by blupblup
Wait wait wait...
People in these places actually raise enough horses to be made into food products?
There's a reason why we raise cattle/cows for meat -- their much more economical. Horses are far to valuable as work animals to be just eaten as normal everyday food.
Now, I could see the occasional old horse being killed and accidentally finding its way into a stray meat grinder...but 60-100%
I just...just don't understand?
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by samuel1990
I just have to laugh at this.
And to think, that so many Brits here are quick to add their opinions to issues in the US, when you were/are probably eating horse.
You guys got more problems then us here in the States.
Say hi to Mr. Ed for me.
when the ussr fell in the late 80s humans made up a lot of meat in the supermarkets and most of the zoo animals as well i have heard .
Nope there is one issue. Fraudulently selling horse as beef. Cheap uncontrolled horse meat at beef prices.
As I said, there are two issues,
And my reply was I 100% agree with you
If you'd bothered reading my post, you would know I said it is wholly illegal and immoral to have done this and in no way are people to blame for eating something that they were lied to about... it is disgusting and something needs to be done.
Nope there is one picture here. The breach of trust between provider and consumer. It does not matter if people actually prefer horse lasagne it is being fraudulently peddled as beef. There is no mitigation to argue.
BUT
There is a broader picture here, one of people's eating habits.. of complacency and convenience.
You are what you eat.
So don't eat rubbish
You, You just have. If your reply is not shrugging your shoulders and saying 'what you gonna do' I don’t know what is.
Who is shrugging their shoulders though?
You will never stop "them" polluting our food and treating people like crap and poisoning people.
Again I agree but what has that to do with fraudulently passing cheap, uncontrolled horse meat off as beef at beef prices?
This is why my posts in this thread have been about eating healthy, eating fresh, preparing your own food and avoiding cheap, frozen, processed crap meals.
See above. A reaction to the crime that these food producers have committed.
These are active steps which people can take so that they are not eating s***...
What have you offered?
And you accuse me of not reading your post. Sheesh!
"They're trying to get us, it's a conspiracy I tells ya"
What's that going to do?
Originally posted by Aleister
reply to post by Ramcheck
Most vegetarians consider eating any animal as cannibalism. That's why we have to love the cannibals. They run our world, and we've seen what they've done to it (and no, Hitler was not a vegetarian, if someone thought of that one. I don't know of any world leaders who are, although the U.S.'s former president, Bill Clinton, went vegan not too long ago and says he's never felt better)
The topic. Horse meat sparks new UK food scare.
So, what? Arrest the people who perpetrated the crime? Wow.... thanks Sherlock, glad you turned up otherwise nobody would have thought of that.
Seriously... what are you even talking about?
What about how this practice impacts on the beef industry? How this will put more pressure on already struggling farmers that cannot put up their prices because the very same supermarket chains are cutting the farmers profit to increase theirs
We're agreeing that people should not have been sold horse meat..... so what else is there?
Yep I have an issue with it on a thread about food producer’s fraud.
I am saying that people should be careful and not buy cheap, frozen, processed ready meals.... which is good advice, and you somehow have an issue with this.
Stop hiding the crime behind healthy eating tips we are all fully aware of. Shown by 3 of the top 5 selling books are cookery books.
And then you tall everyone to stop shrugging their shoulders and do something.....I am not the police, I can not arrest these people... what do you want people to do?
Clearly.
I'm not understanding what your point is or what your beef is, if you'll excuse the pun.
In reply to your edit
I'm not ignoring the cookbook thing, it's just irrelevant....cookbooks sell well? Does that mean that we don't have an obesity and diet issue in the country?
Well at least you can shoot your own horses when and if you choose to eat them. Trouble with that is all we hear is you usually miss and hit a by stander.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by blupblup
Or melamine in the milk, ohhhhhh wait that was China's product..... darn and you said USA meat was bad.
we'll keep our guns thank you very much
BRITISH authorities have warned the public not to eat beef lasagne sold by the Findus brand and made in France after tests found it contained up to 100 per cent horse meat.