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'Horse lasagne' sparks new UK food scare.

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posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 10:50 AM
reply to post by GrandStrategy

It's not so much that no one is paying attention. It's possible for things like this to happen because, there is a well greased operation in place where bribes keep the product rolling along. Meat inspectors falsifying records is the tip of the ice burg.


posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 10:54 AM
So are these meals and foods to be destroyed or stored for the elites? Beef burgers and these meals have never changed their flavour since as far back as i remember so,......
Have we always been eating horse?
Or is this just a bs attempt to hoard the food telling consumers it is horse lol.

Has any one else noticed been a bit tipsy? You probably necked Red Rum

Tell tale signs are Uncontrolable gallopping & Hedge Jumping.

To be honest none of us know what we are eating when it comes to meats, the only thing i cant eat is squid.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 11:07 AM
reply to post by samuel1990

I guess you have never hung out with cows? We have a Dexter Cow for raw milk, and i'll tell you this, she is grand.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 11:11 AM
reply to post by samuel1990

I don't see the problem here. This is the second time I've seen a thread about a "horse meat scare". It's not as weird as you think to eat it.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 11:14 AM
I don't really have a problem with eating horse, or any animal as long as it isn't endangered or rare.
If someone eats meat then it seems a bit morally odd to me to say it's ok to kill one animal to eat and not another.

I do however understand the whole issue with the supply chain of food into the UK being seemingly completely untested until this point, but so long as it's only other forms of meat that have been sneaked into our food then we seem to have got off pretty luckily.

Food adulteration with cheaper products has been happening for centuries Victorian England having things like cheese that was coloured using lead and in turn of the century America the New York Evening Post published this poem

Mary had a little lamb,
And when she saw it sicken,
She shipped it off to Packingtown,
And now it's labeled chicken


As a side note I had a Zebra burger a few weeks ago and it was delicious, really sweet meat.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 11:15 AM
Wow. Horse meat seems to be a growing trend these days. Burger King was just talking about DNA testing the meat supplied by an outside vendor.

Poor fella...

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:44 PM
Quite a few people here are missing the point.

It is a 'scare' because the horsemeat which in its natural state is fine to eat was uncovered because tests discovered phenylbutazone in the meat.

Phenylbutazone is an anti-inflammatory used to treat horses.

It is carcinogenic to humans.
It destroys human liver tissue and has been linked to bone marrow deterioration.

Still hungry?

I am vegetarian and for ethical reasons haven't eaten flesh for over twenty years.
However I don't concern myself with other peoples choices. Some of my oldest friends are hunters and I respect those who kill, clean and eat their quarry. Our meat industry has managed to convince people that their survival depends upon them consuming meat several times a day and that it is somehow 'manly' to hunt in a supermarket for their nicely presented meat.

Once people hand their sustenance over to corporations and divorce themselves from the realities of the origins of their food stuff like this will happen.
Ironic that the dead animal that you eat could kill you! Karma, what a bitch!

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:50 PM
reply to post by HumansEh

Quite a few people here are missing the point.
Quite a few people on here show why the food industry believe they can get away with fraud, looks to me they are correct.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 12:56 PM
Buy sheet like that for £1,and you get worse than gone off catfood.

These horses in the food were probably from a disreputable knackers yard,which exist even today in Britain and europe as they did in medieval times.
Cheap,cruel,and horrid to research-ex race horses,peoples pets are made to suffer and die in hellish circumstances-it disgusts me yet does not surprise me.
This has happened before in the UK,even after they supposedly made the meat laws airtight after the CJD/mad cow disease scare.
We were told we had the best tests in the world,and all our meat was pure.

Never believe the BS the gov or media tell you.It is all BS,or controlled BS.

Stay away from processed anything,veg included,meat especially.
All that is a ticket to early cancer and death.
Make your own food and buy from local farmers and butchers.
Get a veg garden,its easy.Pots on a window will do if you have no garden.
That will ensure a win over these lowlife megacorps who are treating people as worse than the dogs of slaves.

They would feed us soylent green if they thought we wouldn't find out,our loving mega corps and governments.
Maybe they have been-I bet we just havn't tested our burgers for human DNA yet...

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 01:09 PM
I have only one thing to ask:

If this hadn't been found this out, by the gov checks into the contents of some sample produce, then how many of the different brands that are said to have horse meat then how many of those who have bought it and eaten them woould have even noticed?

I have had horse meat and beef whilst in france and to be honest there's not much of a differance when the vairous seaseonings have been added to the taste although when buying meat you should get what you thought you were buying, whether its to cook at home or when cooked in a resturant.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 01:42 PM
i think it's just a matter of being conditioned to what we can and will devourer as carnivores because once secretariat is an accepted dietary supplement it's only a matter of time before we're eating spot and sprinkles! haha anyway.. in a pinch i'd eat just about anything to survive but don't think i'd be ordering it if was added to the menu.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 01:44 PM

Originally posted by colin42
reply to post by blupblup
Even though I agree people need to cook their own food I see no reason why you would point the finger of blame at the consumer.

Supermarkets encourage people to buy pre prepared food. Even call them healthy options. The consumer is not the one to blame here.

I'm not, I'm saying there are two issues here.... and you're confusing my points.
Obviously, the fact that people have eaten horse meat when the label clearly said beef, is morally and legally wrong.
I am 100% saying that it is wrong for that to have happened and in no way are people to blame for having eaten horse meat.

However, and separately, there is the issue of eating frozen ready meals and 12 burgers for a pound, in general.
People have become so lazy and complacent about what they're eating that my point about "what do you expect?" is exactly that.... if you're buying cheap, frozen, pierce-the-film-and-cook ready meals, then you're obviously not really concerned about your health and what you;re putting in your body to begin with.

Just because supermarkets encourage and tell you their ready meal, processed crap is healthy, it doesn't mean it is.

Alcohol companies tell you that their spirits and beers are great.... tobacco companies used to tell people about the health benefits of smoking and doctors used to endorse certain brands of cigarettes and so on.... things change, people need to educate themselves and not just believe what they're told by people who essentially just want their money.

I'm sure in years to come, there will be health warnings on food and certainly processed ready meal s*** much the same way that there is on cigarettes and the 'Drink responsibly' alcohol warnings.
We already have traffic light systems for food but it will be much more blunt in future, I think these kinds of scandals will force the issue

I am not solely blaming consumers.... the fault is with the manufacturers and processors of these 'meat products' but people should also think about what they're eating and not just bury their heads in the sand.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

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posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 01:51 PM

Originally posted by GrandStrategy

And that is shows that whatever regulations are supposed to be in place to ensure a decent product, they're not working at all.

If they can put 99% horse meat in a product advertised as beef and get away with it, because nobody is paying attention, just what else are they getting away with?

How you can you be sure food is safe and clean when you can't even be sure if the beef burgers you're buying are made from horse?!

If people saw the conditions and locations that their food was prepared and packaged in, then I'm sure most people would not want to eat very much more of it.
Most people would get a little vegetable garden and get their meats from local farms and so on... I remember seeing the documentary about hospital food and school dinners and where and how they were produced.

I'm sure that was the tip of the iceberg.

But this is life, this is what people do... we rationalise everything and block out and don't think about things like this... we're very odd creatures us humans.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 02:07 PM
reply to post by Pervius

It's not about whether it's safe to eat or not - it's about consumer trust and what you expect you're getting. If I buy beef from the store, I expect bovine meat. I do not expect horsemeat and pigmeat there. I expect what is labelled on the packet.

This is worrying, not only because consumers have been lied to, but also because there is a great potential that there are other irregularities in products (e.g. a cereal packet could say 10g of fat per 30g bowl, but in fact there's 22g of fat)...

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 02:34 PM

This horse meat is going into commercially produced products, and horses aren't exactly the ideal farm animal to be raised for meat (in terms of cost/profit ratio) compared to cows.

Where is this horse meat coming from?

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 02:38 PM
reply to post by MystikMushroom

Eastern Europe /Poland via Ireland

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 02:40 PM

Originally posted by HelenConway
reply to post by MystikMushroom

Eastern Europe /Poland via Ireland

Also France and Luxembourg for the Findus products.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 02:56 PM
Is it possible the gubbermint are wanting to introduce horse meat to the British diet. By telling us people have been eating horses for ages with no obvious side effects then folks will think it must be ok.

Next will be a range of horse products at low price and next thing everyone will be lapping it up.

There's probably a lot of money to be made from all that horse meat which up to now just goes to waste.

If the French eat then why not us ?
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posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 03:00 PM

Originally posted by bigyin

There's probably a lot of money to be made from all that horse meat which up to now just goes to waste. clearly hasn't been going to waste
And yes, they've made lots of money.
I think sales of ready-meals are up something like 27% since the financial downturn.

posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 03:07 PM
reply to post by blupblup
In the top 5 selling books list there are 3 diet/cook books and at number one is 'fast diets' and that has been the case for many years. People do care about what they eat.

I see nothing wrong with eating horse meat if that is what it is sold as. The fact is uncontrolled horse meat is being sold as beef.

You are 100% correct that people need to take control of what they put inside their bodies and feed to their kids

This is not the fault of the consumer. It is a breach of faith from the producer. It is a fraud that is no less serious than printing counterfeit money and causes the same if not more harm

This is a site that is meant to be to pursue the truth. Expose lies and the misconduct and secrets of big business and corrupt government yet what I am seeing when frauds like this are exposed is acceptance and misplaced blame

This is why they don’t worry about being caught out. Why they still pollute our food with trans fats. These are true, real world conspiracies being exposed and people are shrugging their shoulders.

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