Why is it so hard to believe?

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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:35 PM
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So I'm not going to state any particular false flags here and please no one refer to the one everyone is so sensitive about.

Anyway I have a personal friend that is a veteran. He is not one to indulge in conspiracies and he is in his fifties. When this man gets to drinking he does a little too much talking about his military career. Sometimes he breaks down in tears rambling on about things he's done. About a year ago he confided in me about several incidents where his orders involved the assassination of children. The line that gets me is the "You have your orders" line he got when he was checked whether the target was verified and to make sure they knew it was a kid.

I dont believe the man would lie about something like this but who knows. It doesnt matter whether you believe it or not. It is just the word of one man but I personally dont believe he made it up. It just gets me thinking that if this random person has done this how many others have? Why is it so hard for people to see the capacity for evil the US has. Why do people believe that if the shtf the military would not follow their orders? This guy isnt even a bad guy in the least. I dont know the type of person he was before but to feel as guilty as he does now he probably couldnt have been a bad person then. His whole thing on the issues is "Orders are orders, and you better follow orders or there is gunna be hell to pay."

So based on this mans experience

if true

What makes you think our military wouldnt do really f-ed up things?




posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:41 PM
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I would guess because it would be at home, its different going somewhere else... You go outside of your home to kill the "enemy" if suddenly they are being asked to kill their own a majority might have a problem with it, they wont be able to disconnect themselves from the emotions of themselves or others. That's what i would hope at least.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:44 PM
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Oh I probably should have mentioned that 2 of the incidents he told me about were in the US

but like I said before this all may be a fabrication during some drunk ramblings so whether its true or not who knows. I have know a few vets over the years and heard about some crazy and terrible things they had to do in the middle east.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:45 PM
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hello. which army was he in that could have given orders to kill children? do you live in the middle east somewhere?



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:45 PM
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Every human beings mind has a breaking point, be it mental torture or physical torture.

A very interesting thing happens when a person's mind cracks, it creates a section of the brain where the trauma is stored in an amnesiac pocket for what of a better way to describe it. The really dangerous but interesting thing with this section that is reserved for the trauma from the conditioning (torture) is that it can be shaped however the person inflicting this on the person see's fit if they know what they are doing.

Read into military conditioning drills or ask a person who has been through them how exhausting they are, it is a form of both mental and physical conditioning with torture rolled into one. This is a necessary thing to be done with the military however because anyone without the training would most likely freeze or panic in an under fire situation if that makes sense.

A Soldier will do anything they are told to do if they have been through the training, they just do not understand how their own minds work but who was ever given an instruction manual for the mind at birth?
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:46 PM
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I am speaking of the US military.

and like I have stated this is a single persons tale so whether it is true or not is unknowable. I feel he was telling the truth about it but I cannot be sure.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:48 PM
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I was aware this was used in some cases but is it really used on the entire military?



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:50 PM
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Anybody willing to shoot children will do so regardless of their nationality.

The vast majority of soldiers would probably never fire on their own, but there are plenty of die hard military types who would follow any order given out of some misplaced sense of duty.

~Tenth



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
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I was aware this was used in some cases but is it really used on the entire military?


I can only speak from opinion and what I have experienced in life.

I am in the UK and have friends who have been in the army or have left. All of them say the same thing, sleep times during training are minimal ie 6 hours of physical training without food, woken up after an hours sleep, circuit training with a guy screaming you are useless at you for another 2 hours then sleep for an hour, food then repeat etc.

Speaks for itself I think. I work with the mind for a living and military men are one of the easiest groups to hypnotise, can show proof in the vids I have.

You have to understand though that a military person whilst in uniform taking orders, is not the same person as they are when they are in plain clothes for the reasons I have said earlier if that makes sense.
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 08:05 PM
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 08:18 PM
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So I'm not going to state any particular false flags here and please no one refer to the one everyone is so sensitive about.


This makes what you posted off topic.

Anyone can see that surely or am the only one with a brain left in here?

Just saying with respect.
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 08:26 PM
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 08:28 PM
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Concerning the thread title:

1) We have been lied to our entire lives about everything...


"Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religions destroy spirituality." ~ Michael Ellner

2) We have been conditioned to DENY REALITY...


Modern Western culture is based on denying objective truth and erecting a false reality in its place. The New World Order is dedicated to replacing Truth with a solipsism created by the same people who create money from nothing and charge interest.

Modern society is based on a solipsism created by Illuminati (Cabalist) Jewish bankers and their Masonic minions. The word "solipsism" means a self-created reality that has little or no connection with Truth.

We are being drawn into a solipsism that inverts good and evil; truth and lies. We are being inducted into a satanic cult. Link





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