What doesn't kill the internet only makes it stronger.

The person to get on the internet's "side" is Hillary Clinton, who wants to be U.S president. Someone needs to get her both on the record opposing this and have her actively asking, or more accurately, demanding, that Democrats not vote for this.

Originally posted by Aleister
What doesn't kill the internet only makes it stronger.

The person to get on the internet's "side" is Hillary Clinton, who wants to be U.S president. Someone needs to get her both on the record opposing this and have her actively asking, or more accurately, demanding, that Democrats not vote for this.

edit on 7-2-2013 by Aleister because: (no reason given)

The question is what would she do once in office? We saw Obama promise to close Gitmo and it's still there. He also said he didn't believe in the healthcare mandate (one of his biggest criticisms of Clinton in the 2008 primary) and the second he took office it was like "Just kidding, screw you America."

Sure, she could get on our side on this one but I wouldn't buy it.

Originally posted by SilentKoala

Originally posted by Aleister
What doesn't kill the internet only makes it stronger.

The person to get on the internet's "side" is Hillary Clinton, who wants to be U.S president. Someone needs to get her both on the record opposing this and have her actively asking, or more accurately, demanding, that Democrats not vote for this.

edit on 7-2-2013 by Aleister because: (no reason given)

The question is what would she do once in office? We saw Obama promise to close Gitmo and it's still there. He also said he didn't believe in the healthcare mandate (one of his biggest criticisms of Clinton in the 2008 primary) and the second he took office it was like "Just kidding, screw you America."

Sure, she could get on our side on this one but I wouldn't buy it.

edit on 7-2-2013 by SilentKoala because: (no reason given)

Buch said "Read my lips, no new taxes". Obama said "I'm not coming for your guns, I'm not going to take your shotgun, I'm not going to take your rifle, I'm not going to take your handgun".

Water is wet and all politicians lie, that is precisely what they do for a living. That is why presidents like JFK don't last very long. Left, right, conservative or liberal, agendas are blind to right or left political ideology as it pertains to America.

What we are seeing now are global agendas, more influence and pressure from the UN and major foreign debt holders. Corporate lobbyists and international banking institutions.

They will continue to try to pass draconian legislation and when it comes to the internet, I can guarantee it will become fierce very soon. Maybe they will claim a major security breach by Anon or another foreign power and declare that the US is under cyber attack and then claim the legislation is being enacted to protect our national security and interest. Most will believe this is true, after all, we thought the drones were for terrorists overseas right?

Originally posted by Robodoon
I guess God will take care of it in His time.

Yeah... not falling for that one again.

The computer, tablet, and smart cell-phone manufacturers may have something to say on the subject. If internet freedoms are overtly curtailed, sales will fall... guaranteed.

Because once it starts in the US... If successful, filtering will spread to other countries.

That would be disastrous to any manufacturer that makes internet related communication devices.

Also, other big companies like Microsoft, Google, EBay, Wikipedia, Britannica Online, News Outlets with internet portals, Facebook... etc.. (the list here can get very, very long...) may raise their collective eyebrows. They probably would not be too happy about it, IMO.

So... unless there's an unprecedented emergency that calls for a justified severe curtailing of internet use... I don't see this as being an issue of concern.

##&W @!^$ DAMN bull ****

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Originally posted by MarkJS
Also, other big companies like Microsoft, Google, EBay, Wikipedia, Britannica Online, News Outlets with internet portals, Facebook... etc.. (the list here can get very, very long...) may raise their collective eyebrows. They probably would not be too happy about it, IMO.

Hence the blackouts last time. I know Google gets a lot of suspicion directed their way on this site for a variety of reasons, but you have to hand it to them - they were one of the most influential parties in making sure SOPA and last year's CISPA didn't pass. Facebook was nowhere to be found, which makes them highly suspect, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Aleister
Just look at that list and the overwhelming American Republican support for CISPA. Anyone in the U.S. who cares for the internet should think twice (or three times) about calling themselves a Republican, and actively oppose them in local and national elections. The dislike of Obama is strong on some sectors of ATS, yet those same people who oppose Obama and his supporters will hopefully look at this issue - a direct frontal attack on the internet - and see that it's GOP leaders who overtly want to control as much of the free flow of information in the world as they can. Some elected Democratic leaders do also, but at least they are more likely to bend to the pressure of their supporters on this issue..

Support does tend to be more common among republicans, for some reason. But I wouldn't classify it as a polarized issue, because as with all liberty issues there is support and opposition across the board. I remember Romney, of all people, saying in the GOP debates that he opposed SOPA. Of course his campaign would have been destroyed had he said otherwise, so I'm not convinced it was a genuine statement.

Time to kick the tires and light the fires all ready, again. Its funny how both party's only agree when it comes to one thing, stripping us of our rights and civil liberties. The agenda will continue to have legs until we physically throw them out ... I mean literally. It's why they are scrambling for the guns.
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