Psychic Cells

reply to post by BlueMule


Unfortunately Bedlam in this case is right, the study had a biochemical explanation, not biophysical.

Other studies were done and enter the grey area of transition, that are better at illustrating the point, though.

There aren't fields as Physical Chemistry and Chemical Physics for nothing, there are fields of both that obligatorily must enter the grey area and utilize concepts of the other discipline.

To return to the first study, this is the branch of Biophysics called Biophotonics.

There are more and more western scientists from well-known institutions on this, originally it was confined to Germany, USSR and the "Soviet-influenced" Eastern Europe.

Now, it still is done but concentrated in Germany, Netherlands, Czech Republic, Italy, Spain.

European countries of Hungary, Switzerland are slowly entering the field, too.

The USA is catching up to it and recognizing it, slowly.

What is impressive is the authors' innovative manner of staying in the narrow line of biochemistry, and only left a single cite as a clue to what they could be referring to. That's assuming that they know the background of Biophotonics but for the time being, refrained.

reply to post by wujotvowujotvowujotvo


Yep, that's what I was talking about...it could be a biophoton coupling. That's at least replicable if not well understood. Block UV between the chambers, the effect will vanish.

If man thinks of the totality as constituted of independent fragments, then that is how his mind will tend to operate, but if he can include everything coherently and harmoniously in an overall whole that is undivided, unbroken, and without a border then his mind will tend to move in a similar way, and from this will flow an orderly action within the whole. (David Bohm, Wholeness and the Implicate Order, 1980)

Bohmian Mechanics

Bohmian mechanics, which is also called the de Broglie-Bohm theory, the pilot-wave model, and the causal interpretation of quantum mechanics, is a version of quantum theory discovered by Louis de Broglie in 1927 and rediscovered by David Bohm in 1952. It is the simplest example of what is often called a hidden variables interpretation of quantum mechanics. In Bohmian mechanics a system of particles is described in part by its wave function, evolving, as usual, according to Schrödinger's equation. However, the wave function provides only a partial description of the system. This description is completed by the specification of the actual positions of the particles. The latter evolve according to the 'guiding equation,' which expresses the velocities of the particles in terms of the wave function. Thus, in Bohmian mechanics the configuration of a system of particles evolves via a deterministic motion choreographed by the wave function. In particular, when a particle is sent into a two-slit apparatus, the slit through which it passes and where it arrives on the photographic plate are completely determined by its initial position and wave function.

Bohmian mechanics inherits and makes explicit the nonlocality implicit in the notion, common to just about all formulations and interpretations of quantum theory, of a wave function on the configuration space of a many-particle system. It accounts for all of the phenomena governed by nonrelativistic quantum mechanics, from spectral lines and scattering theory to superconductivity, the quantum Hall effect and quantum computing. In particular, the usual measurement postulates of quantum theory, including collapse of the wave function and probabilities given by the absolute square of probability amplitudes, emerge from an analysis of the two equations of motion - Schrödinger's equation and the guiding equation - without the traditional invocation of a special, and somewhat obscure, status for observation.

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That is one way looking at it.

Any thoughts?

reply to post by nomnom

There is nothing "instantaneous", or "non-physical" about the internet.

I get that the net is not "non-physical," just like nervous systems are physical too - but I would argue that both are indeed "instantaneous" and the nervous systems at least involve 'connections' that defy the mechanical limitations of a purely physical endeavor. if that makes sense...

reply to post by soficrow


An instant is not a moment. There is always delay in either system. Not an instant.

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If you have ever gone to a doctor and he or she used that rubber hammer to test your reflexes? They will hit you in a specific place just below the knee, you really do not feel it. But about 1.7 seconds later your knee and leg move. forward. By hitting your knee the way they did they sent a signal to your brain and it returned. Causing the reflex movement, an a reference as to how much time it takes for the round trip.

Granted this is a simple mechanical reaction and relates to distance in regard to speed while in respect to activity in the brain like thinking?

If we multiply all this out we get 100 billion neurons X 200 firings per second X 1000 connections per firing = 20 million billion calculations per second.

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To be clear some estimates go as low as 86bn neurons

reply to post by nomnom


Aww.

Picky, picky.

reply to post by Kashai


Interesting. Thanks. ...but you guys aren't gonna make me look up all my old research just to figure out what the heck I'm going on about are you?

reply to post by soficrow


We have a computers that can operate at those speeds.

Titan is about to achieve its super speeds — it’s rated at 20 petaflops, which is 20 million billion calculations per second — by pairing traditional CPUs with GPUs developed by NVIDIA. This CPU and GPU combination works so well because “CPUs consist of a few cores optimized for serial processing, while GPUs consist of thousands of smaller, more efficient cores designed for parallel performance,” according to NVIDIA. The CPU and GPU combination is also far more power efficient than a purely CPU-based machine — a key concern of Oak Ridge National Laboratory, which, with a relatively small budget of $1.65 billion, has to be careful with the amount of electricity it uses.

Oak Ridge Lab’s supercomputer slated to be world’s most powerful


Though obviously the computer is not conscious and so an issue of how it is organized becomes a matter for discussion.

In relation to Psychology, much of the brain constitutes the unconscious and in respect to clinical analysis of the brain? Much of it functions towards maintaining the bodies equilibrium. If the part of a persons brain that regulates heart activity were to stop working, the heart will fail. Meditation opens the conscious mind to the unconscious this perhaps in perspective, to what being alive really is.

Originally posted by Kashai
reply to post by Phage

 

Why is it that you have not considered that Aromatic compounds are relevant to communication.

Perhaps some aspects of telepathy are based upon a sense of smell.

You would communicate by farting?

Originally posted by swan001

Originally posted by Kashai
reply to post by Phage

 

Why is it that you have not considered that Aromatic compounds are relevant to communication.

Perhaps some aspects of telepathy are based upon a sense of smell.

You would communicate by farting?

Pheromones are generally released by pores in the skin, in the case of small babies? It seems that when they get a certain distance from there mother where they no longer pick up the pheromones, they stop and crawl back towards her.

You see the baby brain reacts to the lack of the pheromones in its environment, the same effect is apparent in many animals in respect to there siblings through-out the world including humans.

Have you ever heard of Tummo???

Originally posted by Kashai


Have you ever heard of Tummo???

Meditation controls the temperature body by influencing breath, thus the amount of oxygen input to your body's cells.

Pheromones... that looks more like olfactory sense than telepathic sense. It suggest Paul Smith, remote viewer of CIA, smelled up russian underground bases half the world away.

Originally posted by swan001

Originally posted by Kashai


Have you ever heard of Tummo???

Meditation controls the temperature body by influencing breath, thus the amount of oxygen input to your body's cells.

Pheromones... that looks more like olfactory sense than telepathic sense. It suggest Paul Smith, remote viewer of CIA, smelled up russian underground bases half the world away.

I have also cited the works of David Bohm in relation to psychic activity beyond the capacity of the sense of
smells ability to transmit information to the brain....

Thoughts About Thinking

Before delving into Bohm's substantive contributions to science, I will touch briefly on his ideas about language and thought. In his penchant for precision, Bohm analyzed ways that our language deceives us about the true nature of reality. We generally consider ordinary language to be a neutral medium for communication that does not restrict our world view in any way. Yet Bohm showed that language imposes strong, subtle pressures to see the world as fragmented and static. He emphasized that thought tends to create fixed structures in the mind, which can make dynamic entities seem to be static. To illustrate with an example, we know upon reflection that all manifest objects are in a state of constant flux and change. So there is really no such thing as a thing; all objects are dynamic processes rather than static forms. To put it crudely, one could say that nouns do not really exist, only verbs exist. A noun is just a "slow" verb; that is, it refers to a process that is progressing so slowly so as to appear static. For example, the paper on which this text is printed appears to have a stable existence, but we know that it is, at all times including this very moment, changing and evolving towards dust. Hence paper would more accurately be called papering--to emphasize that it is always and inevitably a dynamic process undergoing perpetual change. Bohm experimented with restructuring language in this dynamic mode, which he called the rheomode, in an effort to more accurately reflect in language the true dynamic nature of reality.

A primary tenet of Bohm's thinking is that all of reality is dynamic process. Included in this is the very process of thinking about the nature of reality. If we split thought off from reality, as we are conditioned to do, and then speak of our thought about reality, we have created a fragmentary view in which knowledge and reality are separate. Knowledge is then in danger of becoming static and somehow exempt from the conditions of reality. Bohm emphasizes that "a major source of fragmentation is the presupposition that the process of thought is sufficiently separate from and independent of its content, to allow us generally to carry out clear, orderly, rational thinking, which can properly judge this content as correct or incorrect, rational or irrational, fragmentary or whole, etc." (Bohm 1980, 18). In his writing and talks, he was fond of referring to A. Korzybski's admonition that whatever we say a thing is, it is not that. It is both different from that, and more than that (Korzybski 1950).

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