reply to post by AfterInfinity
in my last post i did say i was going to leave this thread as my points were made in regards to OP, but reading some of your posts i feel i wanted to
just say one more thing. your points on a hateful God are within reason and you ask a very common rational question so i appreciate your honesty and
boldness in that respect, and i hope to shed some light on it.
in relation to God being judged by His own laws, we can start with the fact that God is God, so whatever He decides to do is and right and perfectly
justified. i dont want to just leave it at that though. your making assumptions about God that are taken out of context and not from a standpoint
where you truly understand Him. your receiving a skewed "mainstream media" message. yes it is true that God has killed many seemingly innocent
people including children, the Bible cleary states that, but you see the people that God allowed to be killed were wicked people, and no it is a level
of wicked unlike anything we know of today. it is not like God killed these other nations mentioned in the Bible on the same level that the europeans
killed the native americans, thats where most people put it. if you look into the history of these old civilizations, they sacrificed their own
children, they sacrificed eachother, they were so horrendous that God knew they were beyond a point of salvation, in fact decimating them was an act
of righteousness. if you read into the Bible, you will see God is not about "collateral damage" there has been no case of Him blindly killing
innocent people, so if you understand that, then you understand the degree of evil that were the nations God ordered to be destroyed.
in regards to God being hateful and allowing death along the world, thats a valid concern and a valid question. let me answer it for you, God gave men
free will, so on that note, if a man decides to go drinking and gets himself drunk, later that night while driving home he runs into another car, the
occupants a mom and her little boy, both die. whose fault is this? God or the man who was driving under the influence? Jesus gave two commandments,
the first was to love the Lord your God with all your mind body and heart, the second (pay attention to this one) is to 'love your neighbor as you
love yourself'. theres a reason that second commandment was there, and it is because we are all given free will both to do good and to do bad, and in
most cases, our decisions to do bad impact others, which is why we are to love eachother and think in terms of eachother. now yes hitler was an evil
man, but his people allowed him to be put into power, on that same note, while God does allow free will, it doesnt mean He does not intervene from
time to time, which is why id argue the americans got involved in the 2nd world war, is because God used us to put an end to hitlers reign. the Bible
says it is not Gods will that any should goto hell, but we choose to go there, if He had His will, we would not be free willed and would not be able
to say we chose to love God on our own, but only were forced.
i can see your view on God is jaded and it is sad, i dont say this to insult but i say it because you miss the love that He truly is. consider this,
for many of the evil things that we allow/contribute to in this world, there are also many good things which God uses to intervene, take for example
what i said earlier, where the USA stopped hitler (yes one could argue thats a matter of opinion etc, but you see my point.) lastly most people feel
God is this evil hateful entity that just wants to be worshipped, but its false. He wants your heart, He wants a relationship with you, He doesnt want
you to blindly worship Him, the questions you ask are valid and legitimate, but i cant answer them all for you. i would suggest what i suggested for
the OP, to leave behind any preconceived notions, anything you know about God, forget it and let it start anew, pray to Him for answers and to show
you the way, and He will. dont expect a physical answer or a supernatural experience, but show Him your heart truly desires Him and you will know He
is real. maybe your not at that point yet, maybe you never will be and thats ok its ultimately your choice. but i hope you understand the lie about
God being hateful is just that, a lie, and you can spend your whole life preaching against Him, studying against Him, using all your logic and
rationale and might, but in the end He wont go away, He is always knocking on the door of your heart no matter what.
and lastly, you might ask why is there a hell in the first place? were all born into sin and have committed sinful acts, God cannot allow a sinful
creature in His presence, but He loves us so much He sent his Son Jesus to die for us to wash away our sins, all we have to do is have faith and
believe. so yes there is a reason for hell. thats all.