I'm very scared of going to hell, but I don't believe in hell, page 1


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reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:42 PM by wtbengineer
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Sounds to me like your level of fear is so high that I would question the 90% scepticism 10% belief ratio. You sound more like a 50/50 person to me.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:43 PM by SunLife
I would start Here.. and you better believe your life depends on it.



reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:43 PM by solve
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you will probably go where you choose to go, because death is a personal experience, like life.
i am afraid to die, and i am pretty sure that something nasty will make a meal of my astral being..
its your choice, man.
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reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:44 PM by sacgamer25
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The fact that you don't want to be in hell to me means that you believe in something, even though you have not yet defined what that is. I suggest searching for God, anyone who searches for him earnestly will find him. When you realize that you create your own hell and can choose to overcome that hell than you can stop being afraid of it. This is not something mystical, it is the process of overcoming one's sin so you can be more in line with love. If this is an option I will post more if you think you are open.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:46 PM by 0thetrooth0
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Ive searched for God he has not responded so right now Im an atheist.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:46 PM by Shneal
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Just realize that little 10% of you that is FEAR.. IS HELL. Its the only tool the so called 'Devil' has.. fear. The 90% of you is heavenly. Embrace the part of you that is no longer fearful and hell will no longer be a concern. its the mind games and religious propaganda engraved in our subconscious that produces the fear of hell. Let go of the fear and then, even if it exists, hell wont be an option for you.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:51 PM by DelayedChristmas
Originally posted by 0thetrooth0
Most of the time I don't believe in hell, its like 90% i dont believe in hell but 10 percent of me does. but when I think about hell i get very very scared because i think what if hell is real and when i die ill go there and suffer forever. I would call myself an agnostic/atheist. Its like i have this phobia of dying but most importantly l what can happen after death and especially of the reality of hell. I cant rule out the possibility of hell and so that why im really scared. i dont know why im scared. my mind says hell is not real but it my subconcsious says it might be real. i dont want to die and be wrong because itll be too late then. any help wuld be appreciated.

I posted this under philo/meta because I think people are smarter here than in religion section no offense of course
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Well, Hell, as the concept that is perpetuated by the Church, does not exist. The concept of mankind burning forever in hellfire and brimstone is false and based on fear-based assumption. Hell, as in the Lake of Fire, does exist but it's not for mankind. "Bad" people go to a Sheol-like state where you sit in darkness and think of the actions during your life course until you face judgement. This is alluded to in the Book of Enoch.

You want to know God better? My advice is don't do it out of fear, but hey everyone comes to God their own way.

And what Gark says is good... Simply put, love is basically all that is needed in this life.
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reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:55 PM by 0thetrooth0
Originally posted by Shneal
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post by 0thetrooth0



Just realize that little 10% of you that is FEAR.. IS HELL. Its the only tool the so called 'Devil' has.. fear. The 90% of you is heavenly. Embrace the part of you that is no longer fearful and hell will no longer be a concern. its the mind games and religious propaganda engraved in our subconscious that produces the fear of hell. Let go of the fear and then, even if it exists, hell wont be an option for you.


How can I remove something so engraved in my subconscious? I've tried to change my thinking, but its not of use. Theres like these voices, what if your wrong, dont do it or youll go to hell, etc.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:57 PM by Monger
Originally posted by 0thetrooth0
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post by sacgamer25



Ive searched for God he has not responded so right now Im an atheist.


No, you're not. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what atheism is if you live in mortal fear of being sent to hell and yet brand yourself an atheist. I suppose you can self-identify with whatever label you want, but simply calling yourself an atheist and being an atheist are clearly two different things.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:03 PM by theghoster
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OP,

Don't feel to distressed by this. It is actually natural to fear something that you don't even truly believe in. The belief in a "final judgement" is heavily engrained in the human psyche and in nearly every culture. It is actually natural to have this fear. I wouldn't worry about it much. What is the use, really? It is all just subjective nonsense we humans press upon our surroundings to make "sense" of world. I mean, just think about the very concept of Hell. When you really critically think about it. Does it rally make practical or even moral sense to you that such a place exist? Doesn't it just kind of sound like a fairy tale or a fantasy story made to keep kids and adults "in order" so that society can function. I think that is what it does for us, anyway. Keeps society in order, by creating a fictional "meme" that suggests judgement for our actions while we are alive, so that we don't do anything crazy or hurtful to others in the present. It is nonsensical, but usefulso it remains a permanent fixture and concept in our culture.

-TheGhoster
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reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:03 PM by 0thetrooth0
Originally posted by Monger
Originally posted by 0thetrooth0
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post by sacgamer25



Ive searched for God he has not responded so right now Im an atheist.


No, you're not. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what atheism is if you live in mortal fear of being sent to hell and yet brand yourself an atheist. I suppose you can self-identify with whatever label you want, but simply calling yourself an atheist and being an atheist are clearly two different things.


I want to see and feel hell in order for me to know or at least be 99% sure hell is real and I'll change my life and try to be saintlike. I hope if there is a God he understands where I'm coming from.
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