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Ex-officer suspect in California cop killing

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posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:15 PM
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Anyone catch this little tidbit>?

LAPD to reopen probe into fugitive ex-cop's firing

Los Angeles police say they will reopen the disciplinary proceedings that led to the firing of a former officer who's wanted in three killings over the past several days.

Cmdr. Andrew Smith said Saturday that the department will reopen the investigation that apparently has led Christopher Dorner to seek revenge against former LAPD colleagues who he believed cost him his law enforcement career.

Dorner alleged in an online manifesto that he was wrongly fired for reporting that his training officer used excessive force.

Police Chief Charlie Beck tells KCBS-TV the department will thoroughly re-examine Dorner's allegation to ensure the public that the LAPD is fair and transparent. He says if Dorner wants to surrender, the LAPD will "be happy to hear what he has to say."

LAPD SCARED CAVING IN
SOOOO the LAPD caving in to demands!!

This is a win!! Civil rights attorneys are all over this.

The LAPD is so scared crapless they are starting to go stir crazy..

If I was Dorner though, I wouldn't turn myself in because of this..

Lets see if they give the case a fair shot! We know Dorner will give them a shot.




posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:16 PM
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KTLA5 has a video with a little more insight into Dorner as a cadet. Basically, some footage taken of Dorner in training.

ktla.com... dorners-lapd-training/#axzz2KLyPg1XC



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:17 PM
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I saw some local news interviews of the folks up in Big Bear the other day and I heard at least 4 people say that he, Dorner wasn't there for them and that they weren't to concerned about their safety however, one person did say that the cops were a little edgy and that seemed to bother him the most


There was also a lady who was asked if she would let her child play outside and she said she didn't know, but she wasn't worried about Dorner.
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posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:21 PM
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Yeah...I saw that on CNN about an hour ago...what a change in tone

However, he should turn himself in...just not into the hands of any Law Enforcement anywhere! I was listening to I think it was local KNX am radio on the way home from work yesterday and Jesse Jackson was on the show saying he would work with Dorner and to contact I think the name he gave was Kenneth Blackwell.

I wouldn't trust Jesse Jackson with a 5 cent coin!!!!! I do believe Dorner, should most definitely turn himself in.
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posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by ThePublicEnemyNo1
reply to post by gangdumstyle
 


Yeah...I saw that on CNN about an hour ago...what a change in tone if true


However, he should turn himself in...just not into the hands of any Law Enforcement anywhere! I was listening to I think it was local KNX am radio on the way home from work yesterday and Jesse Jackson was on the show saying he would work with Dorner and to contact I think the name he gave was Kenneth Blackwell.

I wouldn't trust Jesse Jackson with 5 cent coin!!!!! I do believe Dorner, should most definitely turn himself in.
edit on 2/9/13 by ThePublicEnemyNo1 because: (no reason given)
If he did, he better walk right into an attorneys office.. We know the LAPD will shoot on sight.. I would not trust Jesse Jackson but this guy probably can he is black.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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I edited my post that you replied too however, like I said, I wouldn't turn myself into Jesse Jackson in this situation...IMO, he's a piece of crap and will most certainly get Dorner killed.

He better pick someone else like an attorney as you stated or one of his military brothers whom no one is suspect of currently. I know he's got at least one


ETA
I think I misunderstood the he's black part, but IMO it doesn't matter the race. If you mean Jesse Jackson then yes...but that won't help Dorner, I think Jesse Jackson is a patsy and I can't stand him.
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posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:40 PM
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nevermind- link didn't work
edit on 9-2-2013 by evc1shop because: bad link



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:44 PM
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Nah...nothing will happen at the Grammy's tomorrow...it will go on uneventful IMO, except for the music



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:53 PM
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I was thinking more along the lines of it will have been a week since the first incident, I think. The cops probably will not have fessed up to anything and so I think another "reminder" to do the right thing may happen.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:56 PM
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More information in regards to military records. As previously mentioned, my grandfather was a chief of staff, former atomic veteran, and held positions in military intelligence, SAC, MAC and MAJCOM. After he passed several years ago, my family attempted to try to comprehend all that he did while in service for 30+ years. His AF-11 holds a 13 year blanket statement of continuous service with no locations, no rank, no nothing. We tried to fill in that blank. Eventually, we attempted to obtain his full service record through FOIA requests and received a whopping 49 pages for those 30+ years of service. Two of them were duplicates and all were just lists of names, including his, for whenever he received a promotion, medal or other award and one piece of junk where he did some work with an officer's club. In other words, we received jack ****. Interestingly enough, we did receive most of his medical records, partially redacted (black lines) although the medical records for his dependents are sealed, even after FOIA request. My family was NOT pleased for understandable reasons.

Now, we were all raised to be paranoid as hell. Even when I was a kid, I was taught there were things that you don't discuss on the phone, period. Despite that, we all have land lines to fall back on "just in case" to replace our more typical wireless phone systems. What we haven't had has been military knocking on our doors. We get silence. Nothing, nil, nada. This for poking our noses as much as we can into a man whose security clearance was TS/SCI, like Dorner's purportedly was, and even talking about some of what is in his own personal files in a very public manner (ie. documentation of a trip to USSR with the USDA in 1973). The man was stationed at Roswell and Randolf AFB in his career. So, in contrast, it's been our experience that you get hit with a wall of silence and honestly, I don't think they care much whether somebody pokes around or not unless they are hacking computers. It's one person and the more outlandish the claim may seem, the more unlikely it is for anybody to listen. They truly do control all of the information. If something is out there, it's because they no longer give a rat's *** or figure that plausible deniability works for them.

A blank in a military record happens and it should be eyebrow raising, based on my personal experience. I'm curious as well as to what he was doing for those 3 years.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:58 PM
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Dorner will only come out when LAPD is dead. To pose for a picture with his smiling face.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Nonchalant
What I dont get about this whole deal is why its been left to the LAPD to catch this guy?

A quick easy way to sort this guy out would be to send in a Special Forces team from the military. Half a dozen specialists should do it. They will not only be able to track him, but they would cut him down like a little bitch, and there would likely be no loss of life, except his, which he and no-one else cares about anyway.



In a word (actually two) : posse comitatus

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878:

20 Stat. L., 145

June 18, 1878

CHAP. 263 - An act making appropriations for the support of the Army for the fiscal year ending June thirtieth, eighteen hundred and seventy-nine, and for other purposes.

SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment.

www.dojgov.net...



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 10:04 PM
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I grew up in the Cali. High desert !
Around big bear and such ........
That guy couldbe any where nutting but blm land out there,!,

,!



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 10:06 PM
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one he should NOT turn himself in

He is dead the second he does... Period....



As I said in another thread... The Navy is locking down bases in San Diego then returning to normal....

so far

Man accused of killing three people a police officer, a daughter of a police officer, the lawyers husband...

LAPD open fires on people with out verifying who is in the vehicle

Two versions of a manifesto

Cant find accused

edit on 9-2-2013 by ripcontrol because: time travel redaction



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 10:07 PM
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All i see...is a bunch of taxpayer's hard earned money...being spent on finding the boogey-man. How many years did it take to find "Osama"?
I bet you...this guy is hanging out in a cave, checkin' the updates on facebook or twitter.
This certainly has been a funny year; staged with "reality tv" drama. Nothing has been, what it appears to have been. So, no-one has thought about a "false flag", "psyop"???



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by theillusion
So, no-one has thought about a "false flag", "psyop"???


Obviously you didn't read the 30x Randy mentioned it being a false flag.

In this thread mind you.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by yourmaker

Originally posted by theillusion
So, no-one has thought about a "false flag", "psyop"???


Obviously you didn't read the 30x Randy mentioned it being a false flag.

In this thread mind you.

Nope...i sure didn't. Feeding into this crap...is gettin' kinda old, now. We always wind up with the same results. NOTHING. Well...i shouldn't say "nothing". We do get something...after all this is said and done. We get SCREWED, with more laws and restrictions. Trying to be private investigators is getting us NO WHERE. But, the agenda certainly is gaining momentum.

We're waaaaaaaaay past the "wake-up call". We're at the "zombie" stage.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by theillusion
We get SCREWED, with more laws and restrictions.


is it because we collectively buy into and prop up this system every single day we wake up?

yes it is.

is it because we allow others to make decisions on our behalf?

yes it is.

is it because we don't know how to defend ourselves?

yes. it. is.



posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by WhiteAlice
reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1
 


More information in regards to military records. As previously mentioned, my grandfather was a chief of staff, former atomic veteran, and held positions in military intelligence, SAC, MAC and MAJCOM. After he passed several years ago, my family attempted to try to comprehend all that he did while in service for 30+ years. His AF-11 holds a 13 year blanket statement of continuous service with no locations, no rank, no nothing. We tried to fill in that blank. Eventually, we attempted to obtain his full service record through FOIA requests and received a whopping 49 pages for those 30+ years of service. Two of them were duplicates and all were just lists of names, including his, for whenever he received a promotion, medal or other award and one piece of junk where he did some work with an officer's club. In other words, we received jack ****. Interestingly enough, we did receive most of his medical records, partially redacted (black lines) although the medical records for his dependents are sealed, even after FOIA request. My family was NOT pleased for understandable reasons.

Now, we were all raised to be paranoid as hell. Even when I was a kid, I was taught there were things that you don't discuss on the phone, period. Despite that, we all have land lines to fall back on "just in case" to replace our more typical wireless phone systems. What we haven't had has been military knocking on our doors. We get silence. Nothing, nil, nada. This for poking our noses as much as we can into a man whose security clearance was TS/SCI, like Dorner's purportedly was, and even talking about some of what is in his own personal files in a very public manner (ie. documentation of a trip to USSR with the USDA in 1973). The man was stationed at Roswell and Randolf AFB in his career. So, in contrast, it's been our experience that you get hit with a wall of silence and honestly, I don't think they care much whether somebody pokes around or not unless they are hacking computers. It's one person and the more outlandish the claim may seem, the more unlikely it is for anybody to listen. They truly do control all of the information. If something is out there, it's because they no longer give a rat's *** or figure that plausible deniability works for them.

A blank in a military record happens and it should be eyebrow raising, based on my personal experience. I'm curious as well as to what he was doing for those 3 years.


This is one of the greatest responses I have ever received and I thank you for being open about your experiences...I know it's not easy. I just decided to put it out there...hey they've already been to my house, but never spoke to me, only my husband once and they sort of inquired about my whereabouts and when I would be back. The last time they were at my house they left a card with a name on it that stated he was a recruiter. When I called the local number listed on the card, they didn't know who I was looking for and stated that person wasn't at that location and that maybe I had the wrong name. I just left it alone. My Dad's entire military history is just about blank. The only thing I can identify is the fact that he was in the Army


From the bottom of my heart, thank you for sharing your experience I do appreciate it because searching for the truth seems to be incredibly hard these days

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posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by FyreByrd

Originally posted by Nonchalant
What I dont get about this whole deal is why its been left to the LAPD to catch this guy?

A quick easy way to sort this guy out would be to send in a Special Forces team from the military. Half a dozen specialists should do it. They will not only be able to track him, but they would cut him down like a little bitch, and there would likely be no loss of life, except his, which he and no-one else cares about anyway.



In a word (actually two) : posse comitatus

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878:

20 Stat. L., 145

June 18, 1878

CHAP. 263 - An act making appropriations for the support of the Army for the fiscal year ending June thirtieth, eighteen hundred and seventy-nine, and for other purposes.

SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress; and no money appropriated by this act shall be used to pay any of the expenses incurred in the employment of any troops in violation of this section And any person willfully violating the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars or imprisonment not exceeding two years or by both such fine and imprisonment.

www.dojgov.net...


I starred you only for vigor and info as you stated what is written as fact...but your disrespectful comment asking "who cares" is incomprehensible and juvenile at best


There are many that care about the injustices described in the writings of the manifesto whether you care to agree or not...I care not to pass judgement on you as that is not my style, but you are IMO reckless and tactless and that's my opinion about you.
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