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Originally posted by Illuminaughty8
I am not, however, saying I condone hits actions or that I am rooting for him. I hope the LAPD stops shooting innocent people and acknowledges the corruption, and he stops killing people as he said he would
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by OmegaLogos
Explanation: Any LAPD police officer is free to immediately retire and or quit the force!
Personal Disclosure: If it is too hot ... then get the HELL OUT OF THE KITCHEN OK!
Look, Im for the LAPD to be held accountable. Ive said it before, and I will say it again. But I hope you are not another one that thinks people need a wake up call, at the expense of good people getting hurt. WHY aren't the citizens demanding explanations? If you hate the police that's fine. That's your prerogative. This man though lumped every officer into his personal war.You know damn well not every LAPD officer is bad or crooked, or is turning a blind eye. But guess what? All of them are a target in his eyes.
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Daedalus
No what's unbelievable is your rejection of common sense as if you have some stake in the issue ! Like a pay check ? They way you set yourself up against the truth from the get go with no consideration what so ever. You are unbelievable to the core of it's definition.edit on 8-2-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OmegaLogos
Explanation: Uhmmm?
Got a Source link for that quote please?
Originally posted by OmegaLogos
Personal Disclosure: He wasn't crazy but he was wrong! It has never been against the law to hate ... only to act upon that feeling in an illegal manner!
So far nobody has shown me that this is not a valid WAR and that Lt. (retired) C. J. Dorner has operated outside the rules of engagement that he set for himself in his [claimed] unaltered manifesto!
Care to give that a go for me?
In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. Teresa Evans/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD’s Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (Christopher Gettler), Evans kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (internal affairs investigator Det. Villanueva/Gallegos), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed “Blue Line”. Unfortunately, It’s not JUST US, it’s JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting Evans for kicking Mr. Christopher Gettler. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that Evans had kicked the suspect. I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where Christopher Gettler stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer Evans (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to Christopher Gettler stating he was kicked, his father Richard Gettler, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me. What they didn’t mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. Phil Tingirides, Capt. Justin Eisenberg, and City Attorney Martella had a signigicant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. Phil Tingirides was a personal friend of Teresa Evans from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. Anderson. Anderson also had a conflict of interest as she was Evans friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to Evans and it was denied.
Originally posted by Illuminaughty8
And anyone driving a pickup is a target in LAPD's eyes. By my count they've both shot the same number of innocent people.
Originally posted by sonnny1
Does he sound "crazy" ?
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by Illuminaughty8
I am not, however, saying I condone hits actions or that I am rooting for him. I hope the LAPD stops shooting innocent people and acknowledges the corruption, and he stops killing people as he said he would
Lets just make it clear, that this is what its all about, in the end.
re·venge (r-vnj)
1. To inflict punishment in return for (injury or insult).
2. To seek or take vengeance for (oneself or another person); avenge.
n.
1. The act of taking vengeance for injuries or wrongs; retaliation.
2. Something done in vengeance; a retaliatory measure.
3. A desire for revenge; spite or vindictiveness.
And Yes. All those who I put out there, have played this word to their own devices.
Just pick the definition.
For your above response?
I agree 100%
Thats all I hope people will get out of this. EVERYONE knows the LAPD is corrupt, and shall I say probobly one of the biggest corrupt Police forces out there. I hope the citizens who pay these officers, do something about it. They have had years to clean up the LAPD.
I also believe this guy had the right to gripe about the wrongs that befell him. What he doesn't have the right to do is kill innocent people.
I'm just in awe at how many people have justified his actions, in one way or another, and haven't really sat down to think of the consequences.edit on 9-2-2013 by sonnny1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OmegaLogos
Personal Disclosure: Who is turning a blindeye and hwo is being a hypocrit?
Methinks it is you ok!
Originally posted by Buffalo2LA
TELL US HOW TO DO THAT WITHOUT BLOOD SHED?
Originally posted by Grimpachi
If he killed the guy’s kid and her boyfriend then I have zero sympathy for him and he is nothing more than a rabid dog that should be put down. I draw the line at that point. I can understand his anger and even sympathize to a point with him going after those who wronged him but killing indiscriminately without motive is the trademark of a serial killer.
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by Buffalo2LA
TELL US HOW TO DO THAT WITHOUT BLOOD SHED?
You forgot?