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Ex-officer suspect in California cop killing

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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:26 PM
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The more I read the manifesto and the news accounts and juxtapose it all to current topics of debate in the world...if they use a drone to take out this this guy, I'm going to build my own bunker and bug out. LOL! But seriously, I can see it going down like that.

They are so on edge and they have already injured two civilians.

And, I'll say it again, it greatly disturbs me how the fact about two civilians getting injured by jumpy LEOs has been glossed over by both LE and MSM.

It makes it very easy to believe a homeless man was kicked and the whistle-blower was fired.




posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by aaron2388
Lol I'm sorry but these 'I guess we know where your mind is at' type responses are hilarious. You'd think I created my own definition of the word 'spook', even though others in this very thread have already confirmed that it is indeed a known racial slur. Stop looking for stars, champ.


not looking for anything, except ignorance denied.

it was a common racial slur, but is not in common usage today, it is also a very well known term for spies, and those who work within the intelligence community....for some of us, it is the ONLY definition of the term..

bottom line is, you already got schooled on what it means, you saw you were wrong, and said you were sorry. i didn't see that when i had posted my reply. it's done and over with...



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:28 PM
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Found a pic of the truck burnt with commando's escorting it.. It is packed full of bullet holes



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:29 PM
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Come on guys. Let's lay off the derailing. Racism is old news. Now it's all about gay rights and marriage. Any racism or perceived racism simply elicits a yawn from me - it's just getting very boring now.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:33 PM
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Dorner, 33, had several weapons including an assault rifle, said police Chief Charlie Beck, who urged him to surrender at a press conference held amid heightened security in an underground room at police headquarters.

"Of course he knows what he's doing; we trained him. He was also a member of the Armed Forces," he said. "It is extremely worrisome and scary."


www.cbsnews.com... Police chief is hiding in his bunker with his gang of morons shooting innocent people.. Does it get any crazier.. For those wondering or confused, Dorner shot his lawyers kid they say, an ex-lapd captain.. Not anyone on the force now..

Quan's father, a former LAPD captain who became a lawyer in retirement, represented Dorner in front of the Board of Rights, a tribunal that ruled against Dorner, police said. Randal Quan retired in 2002 and later served as chief of police at Cal Poly Pomona before he started practicing law. Quan did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

Dorner said in his online rant that after his dismissal that he lost everything, including his relationships with his mother, sister and close friends.

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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide

ATTENTION!

Rather than try to remove every single post that debates the definition of "spook" - can we please just agree that it is a term referring to a member of the intelligence community and go back to discussing the topic itself?
Thanks.




posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:36 PM
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it was the daughter of one of the people on his list...i believe she was the daughter of the attorney that sat on the BOR, and helped railroad him....

as to how it helps...well, he just took the guy's daughter...he's hurt. from an operational standpoint, it's a victory.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Daedalus
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it was the daughter of one of the people on his list...i believe she was the daughter of the attorney that sat on the BOR, and helped railroad him....

as to how it helps...well, he just took the guy's daughter...he's hurt. from an operational standpoint, it's a victory.
His attorneys daughter they claim.. www.cbsnews.com...



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:37 PM
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Whilst it may be bad of me, I can say that I support this man - as long as he doesn't go and indiscriminately massacre random innocents.

I believe that this man's actions (at least with his manifesto in mind) is a manifestation of what the people feel against law enforcement and government corruption. This is no movie. This is real life - and there is a reason why Hollywood loves its revenge movie plots; but this is real life and so grabs our attention and solidarity even more so.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:37 PM
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This could easily be an initiation and an introduction into a revision of police control institution. With new technologies, scanners, drones, chip implants and God knows what else, LA may be easily turned into a District 9 kind of experiment or more than just an experiment.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
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Come on guys. Let's lay off the derailing. Racism is old news. Now it's all about gay rights and marriage. Any racism or perceived racism simply elicits a yawn from me - it's just getting very boring now.


I agree with you.

Hey do you think the LAPD has racist ways? Naaaa They only mistreat homosexuals right.

Glad we settled that, and thanks for your input.

I wonder if he burned his truck at big bear, then immediately doubled back to LA in disguise.

He's had enough time in the past to organize quite an opera.

That .50 cal can reach out and touch someone at good distance. Stoping a car, yeah that could be done.

However has anyone ever seen a group of people turn into red syrup, who's familiar with pink dust??

Ehhhh.

Back to my corner I go.
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:40 PM
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Skimming through this thread, I've seen the word "Spook" a number of times.

Seriously?

Is that what level of intelligence we're debating on?




posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:40 PM
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For those interested -
Here is a *link* to the the SB county scanner audio live-feed.

I believe that is the area around Big Bear, which is where his burned out truck was found.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:41 PM
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
reply to post by gangdumstyle
 

Whilst it may be bad of me, I can say that I support this man - as long as he doesn't go and indiscriminately massacre random innocents.

I believe that this man's actions (at least with his manifesto in mind) is a manifestation of what the people feel against law enforcement and government corruption. This is no movie. This is real life - and there is a reason why Hollywood loves its revenge movie plots; but this is real life and so grabs our attention and solidarity even more so.


I understand what your point is here, but taking innocent lives is psychotic. He could have peacefully protested and got his message heard on MSM, but no, he chose to kill people. Duh!



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by InTheLight

Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
reply to post by gangdumstyle
 

Whilst it may be bad of me, I can say that I support this man - as long as he doesn't go and indiscriminately massacre random innocents.

I believe that this man's actions (at least with his manifesto in mind) is a manifestation of what the people feel against law enforcement and government corruption. This is no movie. This is real life - and there is a reason why Hollywood loves its revenge movie plots; but this is real life and so grabs our attention and solidarity even more so.


I understand what your point is here, but taking innocent lives is psychotic. He could have peacefully protested and got his message heard on MSM, but no, he chose to kill people. Duh!


Peaceful protest doesn't suit everyone. Some people simply will not think that peaceful protest is good enough.

Ever seen the B-movie, "God Bless America?"

The way a lot of people see it is this; Some people are so jaded, corrupted, and wrong, that they simply have to die, and they are beyond change, repair, and redemption.

I'm not saying this rouge cop is thinking this way particularly, but it's a possibility.



posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
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Whilst it may be bad of me, I can say that I support this man - as long as he doesn't go and indiscriminately massacre random innocents.


Allegedly, he has already done that.

I swear...while the injustice and frustration the man is clearly feeling may be relate-able, the number of people supporting this guy is just chilling. Admittedly, he has not been convicted of anything, nonetheless, his stated mission is murder in the name of "justice".

People cry foul about NDAA and draconian DHS initiatives but then go about posting all kind of crazy stuff on the web...free speech may be a right but it's not without consequence.
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:47 PM
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Agreed....I'll buy into that
I had no intentions on coming across as confrontational, but like with any law enforcement department in any other large urban city there's corruption. It's so incredibly rampant in Los Angeles County that it's insane. I mean we're getting tested on all levels out here by law enforcement and the masses aren't doing anything wrong. LAPD and LACSD has a looonnngggg history of jailing and killing innocent people.

They make a lot of money off of every head they turn into the jails and it's ridiculous. We catch hell from the police all the way down to the idiots who write stupid tickets. My neighbor just got ticketed the other day because her trash can could be viewed from the side walk....WTF! I live in an area where houses are around $750,000 and up, so it's no ghetto and we take very good care of our property around here. But to write someone a ticket because you can see their trash can on the side of their house from the sidewalk is insane! In my city of Pasadena we can't even park in front of our own homes from 2am - 6am without a permit that's ridiculously expensive and if you get more than 5 parking tickets they will impound your car and it's perfectly legal. Guess what...Pasadena isn't a crowded city and we have no issues with parking. I do not live in a homeowners association area either.

Many of us have had it up to here with everything as it is, but to pay the salaries of corrupt cops and officials is beginning to take it's toll on us and every time we hear/experience the corruption we just get more and more angry. We've already got a lot on our shoulders as do the rest of Americans, it just seems sometimes like we get extra taxed in the you know what compared to other states. Highest taxes...highest gas over $5 a gallon...crazy property tax...expensive college education just to name a few and to top it all off, the very people we pay to protect us are and have been abusing us all and making off with fat pensions after they've jailed thousands of innocent people.

So when I read Dorner's manifesto I do not necessarily agree with everything...however, I do agree with most of it, because I've lived it too and it drives me nuts that this mess is still going on. I personally am sick and tired of paying for protection for my community that gets nothing but crap, abuse, the innocent being killed and then called an accident and harassment in the end. When I say community, I mean all of Los Angeles county.

If these cops out here can't do an honest job while being paid by it's citizens who work honest jobs...then they need to go find something else to do because we've all had it! They act like they can't be replaced. Los Angeles is a friendly place, but these corrupt cops need to go...so I do sympathize with some of Dorner's message in a way.
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:48 PM
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here his full manifesto uncensored sorry if posted already
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posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 09:51 PM
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How does killing the fiance and daughter of some guy "HELP" him in any way?


How do you know it's true ? I heard on the MSM ? That's worse than saying I read it on the internet.



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