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reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:22 PM by GoOfYFoOt
reply to post by Bedlam





Your body doesn't have a resonant frequency, nor your mind. Electric charge does not have a frequency, although you can apply an electrical signal that does. Light and sound are not similar, and cannot be tuned to each other.


Not the body as a whole, but certain parts that are more dense, like bones and teeth, do. Alternating current does have a frequency, in regard to the speed of the polarity reversal. Or using direct current while oscillating the charge could be tuned to a specific frequency.
Light has a measurable wave, therefore it too, can be harmonized with, if not effectivey modified.

So, you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss wacky thoughts. As you avoided the whole purpose behind them.

It was a ruse, to get intelligent people like you, to open their mind, and consider things outside of their little box.

I love to provoke abstract thought.



reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:27 PM by Bedlam
reply to post by beezzer



Then there's that um other sort of cranial stimulation.

Way back in the dawn times, there was an experimental psych prof in Ireland that published a quirky paper on electrosleep, it went unnoticed for quite a long time, in fact after he died his research notebooks and raw data were about to be trashed. I called there looking for the guy not aware that he had died, they asked if I wanted his stash, I got it.

Turns out he had a good explanation on why electrosleep worked some times and didn't some times and had such divergent results depending on who did the experimenting.

The project flipped from being "how can we devise a battlefield electrosleep apparatus" to "interrogation aid" before you could say Sid Gottlieb. Not sure where they took the thing, we lacked the staff and assets to do psych oriented projects or human experimentation. For that you need grad students or Canadians.

Don't hear a lot of anything on ATS about electrosleep. Probably worth a long post. It's right up y'all's alley.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:30 PM by jimmiec
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OMG!!! You have to see Avatar! I could not take my eyes away from the screen when i watched that movie. It set the bar to an all time high.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:32 PM by jimmiec
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Crystals. Those are the tiny burgers that you buy 12 of after the bars close.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:39 PM by Bedlam
Originally posted by beezzer
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post by Bedlam



You still have the papers?

Am curious.


They're in the lockup at work. I am 2400 miles away, sad to say.

Are you familiar with electroanesthesia/electrosleep? It is a very interesting field, and right up ATS's alley. I never really considered a thread on it until now. Partly because I'm on the wrong side of the story, from most ATSers point of view. Partly also because it was classified past the phase I paper we did on it. So I'm in the odd position of not actually being NDAd to the covert side while knowing what it's about anyway, but in such cases it's been pointed out to me that I should have known not to connect dots for people, their exact phrase last time I got in trouble for doing so.

edit to add: I think I will try to unearth all the crap on this again. It's been years, so I probably don't have most of my original notes any more, which is sad because this stuff is generally not on the net, you've got to scour it out of old periodicals. It would be a snap if we were still out of Huntsville, the library there has an interestingly in-depth stack system. Sometimes you find bread crumb trails from researchers before you - when we did a lot of background searching on Frey effect someone had put little notes all in the same journals I was digging through.

What kicked it off for us was an article by Bob Pease wherein he mentioned that National Semi was considering making a home electrosleep apparatus. They dropped it. As I sort of knew Bob from correspondence and running into him at trade shows I asked why it had been scrapped, he said they got such inconsistent results from it that they couldn't go forward. Then the SOC put out a RFQ on it for battlefield use, we picked it up and ran with it, and then it sort of went into the alfalfa.

An explanatory note - there was once upon a time a neat way to induce sleep, it was originally called electrosleep, and like a lot of things we stole it from the Russians developed it for NASA. It allowed you to get the equivalent of eight hours of sleep in an hour under the headset, even if you were in a noisy stressful environment, so it was a boon for astronauts, albeit one they didn't discuss a lot. If you ever watched the original pilot for "Six Million Dollar Man", you see them put something on Austin's head at the end and he goes into a coma waiting for his next mission or whatever - that's an oblique movie reference to it. (if I'm remembering right that is)
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reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:41 PM by Bedlam
Originally posted by jimmiec
reply to
post by beezzer



Crystals. Those are the tiny burgers that you buy 12 of after the bars close.


Krystals kick butt. I get a serious Krystal jones from time to time, but generally only when I'm drunk for some reason, since you mentioned bars I assume it's true for you too?



reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:43 PM by GoOfYFoOt
reply to post by Bedlam





It would be hard to say if a tooth has much of a resonance as quite a bit of it is damped by the gum/jaw.


LOL...Apparently, you have never struck a tree with a wooden baseball bat...

As for the uber-high EM frequency of light....Fine. Just use it to modulate or as a carrier for the other stimuli....


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:50 PM by Bedlam
Originally posted by GoOfYFoOt
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post by Bedlam





It would be hard to say if a tooth has much of a resonance as quite a bit of it is damped by the gum/jaw.


LOL...Apparently, you have never struck a tree with a wooden baseball bat...


Your bat is long and thin - nice aspect ratio - and elastic, so it has a relatively high Q. When you strike an object with it, it will induce a mechanical resonance along the length of the bat. That will be damped by your hand, into which the bat will transfer its energy. Doing so, it will form a loosely coupled system with your arm, shaking your arm as well, how well it does this depends on where you hold the bat (choking up is actually changing the bat's impedance and resonance), and how tightly, and how tight your muscles are.

This is also true for, say, shooting a firearm. If you watch this as recorded by a high speed camera, there are all sorts of mechanical resonances going on - the barrel will whip up and down at the barrel's natural rate, you and the rifle will oscillate at the rate formed by your arm and the rifle stock, a shock wave will travel down your body in the skin and sometimes back up again with enough force to see.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:50 PM by jimmiec
reply to post by Bedlam



It used to be. I might have a glass of wine or a beer nowadays. I pretty much quit drinking years ago. Well, except when i have a cold. I drink moonshine to knock it out.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:50 PM by beezzer
Originally posted by Bedlam
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to
post by Bedlam



You still have the papers?

Am curious.


They're in the lockup at work. I am 2400 miles away, sad to say.

Are you familiar with electroanesthesia/electrosleep? It is a very interesting field, and right up ATS's alley. I never really considered a thread on it until now. Partly because I'm on the wrong side of the story, from most ATSers point of view. Partly also because it was classified past the phase I paper we did on it. So I'm in the odd position of not actually being NDAd to the covert side while knowing what it's about anyway, but in such cases it's been pointed out to me that I should have known not to connect dots for people, their exact phrase last time I got in trouble for doing so.


Thanks. I may look it up and do some homework on my own. Totally understand your predicament, though.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 02:01 PM by rickymouse
Originally posted by Bedlam
Originally posted by GoOfYFoOt
reply to
post by Bedlam





It would be hard to say if a tooth has much of a resonance as quite a bit of it is damped by the gum/jaw.


LOL...Apparently, you have never struck a tree with a wooden baseball bat...


Your bat is long and thin - nice aspect ratio - and elastic, so it has a relatively high Q. When you strike an object with it, it will induce a mechanical resonance along the length of the bat. That will be damped by your hand, into which the bat will transfer its energy. Doing so, it will form a loosely coupled system with your arm, shaking your arm as well, how well it does this depends on where you hold the bat (choking up is actually changing the bat's impedance and resonance), and how tightly, and how tight your muscles are.

This is also true for, say, shooting a firearm. If you watch this as recorded by a high speed camera, there are all sorts of mechanical resonances going on - the barrel will whip up and down at the barrel's natural rate, you and the rifle will oscillate at the rate formed by your arm and the rifle stock, a shock wave will travel down your body in the skin and sometimes back up again with enough force to see.


Never chopped a tree with an axe I guess? The dead ones make a lot more noise and the taller the tree the different the sound. It's not only in the bat.

I used my cordless circuit tester on the trees. I put a signal into a trunk with a copper rod. I was able to pick up the signal on all trees within about a twenty foot radius. Not only would the energy of the axe blow be in that tree but it would also resonate to the other trees around it.

Teeth do accentuate the frequency of sound, the jaw doesn't dampen them much.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 02:07 PM by GoOfYFoOt
Originally posted by rickymouse
Originally posted by Bedlam
Originally posted by GoOfYFoOt
reply to
post by Bedlam





It would be hard to say if a tooth has much of a resonance as quite a bit of it is damped by the gum/jaw.


LOL...Apparently, you have never struck a tree with a wooden baseball bat...


Your bat is long and thin - nice aspect ratio - and elastic, so it has a relatively high Q. When you strike an object with it, it will induce a mechanical resonance along the length of the bat. That will be damped by your hand, into which the bat will transfer its energy. Doing so, it will form a loosely coupled system with your arm, shaking your arm as well, how well it does this depends on where you hold the bat (choking up is actually changing the bat's impedance and resonance), and how tightly, and how tight your muscles are.

This is also true for, say, shooting a firearm. If you watch this as recorded by a high speed camera, there are all sorts of mechanical resonances going on - the barrel will whip up and down at the barrel's natural rate, you and the rifle will oscillate at the rate formed by your arm and the rifle stock, a shock wave will travel down your body in the skin and sometimes back up again with enough force to see.


Never chopped a tree with an axe I guess? The dead ones make a lot more noise and the taller the tree the different the sound. It's not only in the bat.

I used my cordless circuit tester on the trees. I put a signal into a trunk with a copper rod. I was able to pick up the signal on all trees within about a twenty foot radius. Not only would the energy of the axe blow be in that tree but it would also resonate to the other trees around it.

Teeth do accentuate the frequency of sound, the jaw doesn't dampen them much.


Yeah...Bedlam is no fun....he (or she) just wants to stand up on his science books and talk down to us. But the only knowledge he posssess comes from those books...
Where is the fun in that?

I memorized all of the Dr. Suess books but you won't find me in the kitchen with a laying hen, a slaughtered pig and some food coloring...
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