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Originally posted by woogleuk
Christ, Richard III had Italian and French roots, so based on your criteria of what is "English", either the current monarchy ARE true English/British or Richard the III is not.
Originally posted by RedBird
Richard III was the last English king to lead his troops into battle. After Richard, no English king ever fought or visited the front lines of a war.
Originally posted by Izak4K
Is this assassins creed 15? I don't know, or even care. Almost everyone can do it in photoshop. They recreated his face - wow. This must be huge. Sorry, I give up.
Originally posted by CJCrawley
Richard III was a brute.
He murdered his nephews in the Tower, even though they were no longer a threat, as parliament had decreed they were bastards (due to their father - King Edward IV - allegedly having been married to someone else when he married their mother).
He is also probably responsible for murdering King Henry VI in the Tower, as he is the only person mentioned to have been in the Tower at that time.
Quite partial to murdering people in the Tower of London, was old Ritchi
.
Originally posted by woogleuk
The last true English king of GB was King George IV (1936-1952), whose father before him was also English born and raised.
All this German and Greek nonsense is just that, nonsense.
Originally posted by HelenConway
Originally posted by CJCrawley
Richard III was a brute.
He murdered his nephews in the Tower, even though they were no longer a threat, as parliament had decreed they were bastards (due to their father - King Edward IV - allegedly having been married to someone else when he married their mother).
He is also probably responsible for murdering King Henry VI in the Tower, as he is the only person mentioned to have been in the Tower at that time.
Quite partial to murdering people in the Tower of London, was old Ritchi
.
Well this is a subject where there seems to be few grey areas, you either like him or hate him ?
Originally posted by FreedomEntered
Do you know if Kate middleton has ANY royal blood? I mean its unusual for them to marry a commoner. I dont think the fact that she has ancestors who kinda ruled their little towns as counting for royal blood. Its a brave move for them
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by HelenConway
Dunno about your history, but my history says Henry the 8th was a madman, and he killed alot more than just the commonfolk. He tried to wipe out my entire bloodline and failed because my ancestor had been sent away to a monastery as many in nobility were frequent to do in that time when there was a younger son born who might contend for the elder's inheritance. The ancestor of mine who did escape through the church, made sure to chronicle that, and this is how we ended up in the U.S., we were originally Welsh.edit on 7-2-2013 by lonewolf19792000 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by HelenConway
Helen, it isn't just opinion, its a fact. Otherwise what you're saying is, no matter how many generations have passed if you have any foreign blood then you're not English, in which case none of us are English.
Just because you say many people might believe otherwise, that also does not mean it to be true. You have repeatedly shown in these Royal threads to have a very selective view on what constitutes English and what doesn't.
Ironically, assuming your name is Helen Conway, that is an Irish surname.... Just saying
Originally posted by CplAwesome
I would have preferred a Norman over the lizard king any day. All kidding aside.........I saw a program about a
an aussie who should be the rightful king. I can't remember the details but I'm sure it was BBC and within the last
year. This is very interesting. Thanks.
Dr Jones told him he believed Edward IV was the illegitimate son of an archer. "His parents were 200 miles apart at the time he was supposed to have been conceived," says Mr Hastings. "The crown should have gone to Edward's brother George, Duke of Clarence, which is our line of the family."
The lie was perpetuated for more than 500 years and Mr Hastings, descended from a Catholic Plantagenet on the losing side of the civil wars of the 15th century, has been denied his throne
:
'Rightful king of England' dies in Australia
An Australian purported to be the rightful king of England – the 14th Earl of Loudoun, has died in his hometown where he worked as a forklift truck driver