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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
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hyper sexually orientated group with a large number of partners

Funny enough that describes most of my heterosexual friends all the way until they turned 30. I think "hyper sexuality" is a fairly common occurrence in all orientations, especially in younger years.


To be fair, homosexual men are far, far more hypersexual than any other grouping of people. And the reason is obvious.

If women were sexual in the same way as men, people would literally never do anything else. Men are, by nature, hypersexual. Not all men, but the "normal" man. Women...it is different. The entire sexual experience is different. To such a degree that there are interesting aspects of it that relate to lesbianism (like, a straight women is more likely to engage in lesbianism if men have continuously let them down. Women crave emotional connection before physical...normally).

My son will even admit that the gay male lifestyle is hypersexual. If both partners are men, then both partners are literally always willing. The gay female lifestyle isn't so much. Although. exceptions do exist.




posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by meggiddo2012
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Question. If you eliminate the male or female sex from the equation, could humanity or humans continue to exist or will we cease to exist?


Several questions to answer your question. I'm not trying to be hostile, I just want you to think about what you're saying.

First, why would one of the genders just disappear from the equation? Are you insinuating that ALL of the females and/or males of the human race are going to suddenly turn gay? Why would they? Do you think that the majority of people are just pretending to be attracted to the opposite gender? If not, then does it make sense to say that SOME people being gay is somehow going to cripple our race - that we'd cease to exist because of it?

Homosexuality has been observed in over 60% of all species, so it probably doesn't cripple population growth all that much.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by Xtrozero
 


hyper sexually orientated group with a large number of partners

Funny enough that describes most of my heterosexual friends all the way until they turned 30. I think "hyper sexuality" is a fairly common occurrence in all orientations, especially in younger years.


To be fair, homosexual men are far, far more hypersexual than any other grouping of people. And the reason is obvious.

If women were sexual in the same way as men, people would literally never do anything else. Men are, by nature, hypersexual. Not all men, but the "normal" man. Women...it is different. The entire sexual experience is different. To such a degree that there are interesting aspects of it that relate to lesbianism (like, a straight women is more likely to engage in lesbianism if men have continuously let them down. Women crave emotional connection before physical...normally).

My son will even admit that the gay male lifestyle is hypersexual. If both partners are men, then both partners are literally always willing. The gay female lifestyle isn't so much. Although. exceptions do exist.


Would be much more willing to believe this if I saw some statistics. I realize it's a commonly accepted idea that men are bigger sexual deviants than women in this modern age, but the horn-dog card has been played against both genders at various times in history. Look at the ancient Greeks - it was considered manly to cry over a lost lover all of the time and women were always depicted as different forms of seductresses in their mythology/religion. I think it's really more of a personal opinion. Men and women approach sexuality differently, but personally I have doubts that it affects how promiscuous they are. I wouldn't be surprised that gender roles had something to do with it. Guys are expected to be shameless, gals the opposite. One side might boast deviance and the other may hide it.
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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 01:43 PM
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being a "horn dog" is not deviant. having addressed that academic point....

....i don't care to dig up statistics about it. I am not interested in being right or wrong, or really delving any further into understanding homosexuality. I understand it enough that I can make it through the day, LOL.

But i can say, from the men I know, the men are always far, far more willing to engage in intercourse than the women in a marriage. In my own house, I tell my wife, "Never ask, i'm always ready." If we were on my schedule, we would be chafed and sore all the time.

When i was in high school....if it weren't for the restraint of the girls, it would have been a 4 year orgy.

Rarely do you see male prostitutes walking the streets, trying to fulfill the desires of lonely women. Matter of fact, women tend to just go to the bar and have things bought for them when they are lonely. If a man is lonely, he may hope to find someone at the club. If a women is lonely, she will always find someone at the club, omitting personal attraction (or the lack thereof). Empty sexual encounters are more work for a male to find than a female.

While everything I say is perceptive and anecdotal, I would be shocked if 90% of the population in the west didn't carry the same perception as I do. And while mass approval is not proof....in the absence of data its the best I have.

Should you be able to find data to disprove me, I would be interested in seeing it. But i am not interested in digging it up.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 02:07 PM
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The issue of homosexuality vs. the world is really getting kind of old. Personally, I don't give a flying rat's bookie who or what anyone choose to marry. Heck, one of the biggest financial supporters of gay marriage are the divorce lawyers.

It's all become like a dinner that was left in the oven wayyyy too long. What comes out won't be what anyone wanted because everyone kept turning up the heat.

Patience. All things will come in due time.



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
But we didn't just randomly decide not to agree with them, we (society) collectively deliberated how 'bad' or 'good' they are and made an ethical decision. Paedophilia and slavery have obvious negative and damaging consequences. Can you make a solid case against homosexuality in a similar fashion? The 'agreement' people in support of LGBT want is nothing more and nothing less than equal treatment. Reason being there is nothing inherently 'bad' about the orientation.


That is a good point in society decides what is ethical or not.

Slavery: Are we not ALL a slave to something? I'm a slave to my paycheck, I don't get up in the morning and work all day because I love it. I'm also sure many people live horrid lives living in freedom. Plato helped created the concept of morality as he had slaves and sex salve boys...which all most likely were proud of their status and where all most likely lived a good life in terms of life back then.


Key words being "a good life in terms of life back then.".

Does a good life sound like being taken from the country you have known all your life, shipped across the seas like cargo and not human beings, sold like property, and then used and abused in all manner of ways - worked, overworked, beaten, raped, separated from children, spouses, lovers, religion, tradition, culture, killed - simply because people lands and oceans away from you got it into their heads that the colour of your skin and the ways of your land and people were unfamiliar and therefore inferior?

There is a distinct difference between doing something in order to continue to survive and subjugating entire races because the race doing the subjugating either truly believes or pushes the notion to further the agenda that that other race is inferior in the eyes of both God and nature and therefore fir to be used.

Can you spot it?



posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 04:44 PM
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To be fair, homosexual men are far, far more hypersexual than any other grouping of people. And the reason is obvious.

I am open to statistics/studies, etc. And of course the observation that your son said. I only know what I have seen in person, and what I have heard from other people in LGBT, etc.

Again, in my experience sexual promiscuity I have observed in all orientations and genders. Oh and definitely not exclusive to men hahaha. Then again I did live in a commune for a few years
So no, 'far far more' is not what I have seen/heard, in my myopic experience here in Northern California.


If both partners are men, then both partners are literally always willing.

I'm not sure what that means
Like as long as they are in each other's company they are always having sex, and never not in the mood or capable of saying "not right now"?


But i can say, from the men I know, the men are always far, far more willing to engage in intercourse than the women in a marriage

Ah yeah. I can't offer much here. My experience is with 30 and unders. College students and such.
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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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Now that I have made that clear...the fact remains reguardless what Straight or Lesbian or other people might have done...will do...have done...or did....the GAY BATH HOUSES....GAY THEATERS which played Gay Porn...Gay Clubs....ESPECIALLY of the type in large cities such as New York, San Fran, L.A....etc...all these places made the spreading of HIV and thus AIDS to quickly get a foothold in the Rich, Highly Traveled, High Percentaged Tourists, Seeking Gay Sex Men....who tended to visit such places on Business Trips and Vacations as not all but many were in the CLOSET and had Wives and Kids as well as Gay Lovers and Friends whom they passed on the HIV VIRUS to and this also...due to many being Married...created the problem of their WIVES who now became infected and a percentage passed on the Virus to THEIR LOVERS whom they were having an AFFAIR with as it is common when a Man is having an affair be it with a woman or another man....their wives will sense this and also start having affairs or perhaps the Husband sensed his wife was having an affair and that is what gave him the courage to express his true sexuality.



Now please tell me that any single one of those things would have happened if religion and thus society hadn't seen fit to condemn homosexuality as immoral, wrong, and unacceptable, thus sentencing so many men - as well as women - to fake and double lives, emotional and sexual repression, and sham marriages just to satisfy parents and communities that seemed entirely unable to fathom that the way the thought life should be lived couldn't be the way someone else was destined to live theirs.

You can't deny that the pressure and ignorance coming in on all sides is not a huge factor in why people had lied and the disease went about unknown and untreated and so widespread for so long.

And when it finally came out, that didn't exactly help then either.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy

hyper sexually orientated group with a large number of partners

Funny enough that describes most of my heterosexual friends all the way until they turned 30. I think "hyper sexuality" is a fairly common occurrence in all orientations, especially in younger years.


I understand your point, but when I suggest "hyper" I'm saying well beyond what you are thinking. Hyper as in multi partners in a night...If you heterosexual friends are doing that then they are catching up to the gay lifestyle I'm referring too.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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There is NO DOUBT that the promiscuous Gay Lifestyle lived by Gay Men in the late 1980's and ESPECIALLY in large cities where there existed both a larger Gay community than Rural Areas as well as many Clubs and Bath Houses specific for the use by Gay's to enguage in Sexual Activity.

This of course caused HIV and AIDS to spread at a much quicker rate.

Still...in Africa...it would seem that HIV and AIDS was spread and at a very fast rate at that...by the practice of Eating Bush Meat...and to a lesser although not a minor extent...Gay Sexual Activity and the common practice of the Rape of both young Boy's and Girl's.

Split Infinity



I agree and I really didn't want to get into a debate about this, but I did want to point out that homosexuality is/was not some totally benign culture as many suggest it is.

I will stand by my main point that I do not see homosexuality as anything special outside of any other minority behavior, but the successful agenda has been to make it special to the point it is a crime to discriminate against it in any way where another minority behavior such as polygamy is against the law.

There is a case in Portland where a bakery owned by a person that does not want to make wedding cakes for gay couples....they will make anything else but wedding cakes, due to their beliefs. Well that will be fines and such for them where if they also didn't make a cake for a polygamist that is perfectly ok.

Am I wrong to not see this minority behavior/lifestyle as something special?



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 12:43 AM
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I understand your point, but when I suggest "hyper" I'm saying well beyond what you are thinking. Hyper as in multi partners in a night...If you heterosexual friends are doing that then they are catching up to the gay lifestyle I'm referring too.

Well. I am only going to speak from personal experience. None of my gay/lesbian friends meet that description.
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 12:45 AM
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I will stand by my main point that I do not see homosexuality as anything special outside of any other minority behavior, but the successful agenda has been to make it special


The "agenda" is to make it a minority that is equal not special. Your "agenda" apparently is to demote it even further down to the level alongside paedophilia.

And what do you mean by behaviour?? You never addressed my earlier response to that.
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy

The "agenda" is to make it a minority that is equal not special. Your "agenda" apparently is to demote it even further down to the level alongside paedophilia.


Why should all minority behaviors be equal to the majority? Why should one special one be above all other minority behaviors.

What I mean by a behavior is a physical or mental action. I also said I didn't equate pedophilia to homosexuality, but it seems you want to keep saying I did.

What I did say is that I used pedophilia as a behavior that we BOTH can disagree with, but is also one that is incurable since it is a physical condition...just like heterosexuality or homosexuality is... but it is ok to disagree with that minority behavior and 100s more, but to disagree with homosexuality is wrong.

You must also understand that for a typical heterosexual guy this can be viewed as a disgusting lifestyle. This is not to say I cannot appreciate two gay guys that have a loving relationship, but the idea in itself can be disgusting. It's kind of a hard wired thing.....



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Well. I am only going to speak from personal experience. None of my gay/lesbian friends meet that description.


Why then is the gay community the highest risk group for STDs and HIV? I could show numbers, but they are easy to find... With that said my neighbor is a gay couple that are in their 60s and been together for like 30 years, great guys. Two people that if I needed to leave my two boys with, age 9 and 13, they would be my first choice, but as a group this is not so typical.
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 01:32 AM
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Why should all minority behaviors be equal to the majority?

Did I ever say that? LGBT supporters don't say that. The opposition puts that in our mouths.


Why should one special one be above all other minority behaviors.

They. Should. Be. Deliberated. Individually.

Just like everything else. The intelligent thing to do..


I also said I didn't equate pedophilia to homosexuality, but it seems you want to keep saying I did.

If you don't understand how you keep making them analogous with your wording, I can only do so much. You continue to insist there is no reason for them to be on different levels. They are equal to these '100' other 'minority behaviours'.


but it is ok to disagree with that minority behavior and 100s more, but to disagree with homosexuality is wrong.

I fully support your freedom to agree or disagree with any of them.


You must also understand that for a typical heterosexual guy this can be viewed as a disgusting lifestyle. This is not to say I cannot appreciate two gay guys that have a loving relationship, but the idea in itself can be disgusting. It's kind of a hard wired thing.....

Is the omission of lesbians intentional?

As far as it being 'hard wired' that you wouldn't be attracted to the idea of two gay guys 'getting it on'. Um yeah dude. I'm sure plenty of gay people feel the same way about the imagery of you getting it on. We each experience our orientations, and can't necessarily understand the other's attractions. I already fully understand this. I am bisexual, and I have both gay and heterosexual friends. This isn't the first time I have heard that from any orientation. Personally none of it 'bothers' me. Outside of not wanting to see anything excessive in a public setting. Well in any setting that it was a surprise for that matter hahaha.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 01:39 AM
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Why then is the gay community the highest risk group for STDs and HIV?

I am not sure why that was a response to my post. Are you suggesting my friends are not how I say they are?

I think this has already been addressed. HIV transfers that much more 'effectively' through anal sex. Not all gay people (gay women that don't, gay men that only do oral) partake in it, but it's certainly not uncommon. This could account for it! Not because they are more promiscuous than all other demographics. The problem again, is people in general not testing and or wearing protection. That's a problem shared by all orientations.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 05:45 AM
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But still......do we see red light districts with male prostitutes walking the streets waiting for a woman to come proposition them?

And parents....do we tell our sons that "girls only want to get in your pants".

Like I said....all I have is anecdotal. But to me, that anecdotal evidence seems to be pretty convincing.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 06:02 AM
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But still......do we see red light districts with male prostitutes walking the streets waiting for a woman to come proposition them?

So many variables could be addressed here. *I will offer further thoughts if it's of interest*


And parents....do we tell our sons that "girls only want to get in your pants".

and here


Like I said....all I have is anecdotal. But to me, that anecdotal evidence seems to be pretty convincing.

Definitely not to me. So agree to disagree on this particular



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 09:18 AM
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You can discuss further, if you wish (to sate my curiosity)

But since agreeing to disagree seems so prudent, that is entirely up to you.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 10:27 AM
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So I guess willingly seeking out get or give HIV/AIDS to each other is perfectly 'natural' and 'moral.' You ignore all the problems that homosexuals cause. They have severe mental problems and need therapy.





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