reply to post by theophilus40
Like the fictional country we have been visited by someone from outside our world who wasn’t blind. Jesus Christ came into the world to
reveal to us that there was more to reality than what we can perceive with out senses and most people rejected his message.
But there is one way in which the story doesn’t reflect reality. Nunez could tell the people they were blind and describe what the world was really
like but he couldn’t give them the ability to see. Jesus not only reveals to us the fact that we are spiritually blind but he can also heal our
If you read the gospels you will find that while Jesus was on earth he opened the eyes of those who were physically blind. But he also did something
much more important. He made a way for our spiritual blindness to be removed.
I like the story, thanks for posting it.
And the first two
paragraphs above are correct.
Then, however, you take it too far. You think that the Bible Gospels say he physically gave sight to the blind. But that can easily be regarded as
an analogy - a metaphor -
He did make a way for our spiritual blindness to be removed, in the same manner that all previous teachers of the "reality" that is BEYOND HUMANS'
ABILITIES to conceive taught it.
That was the reason that dedicated study was necessary before a disciple could be called a 'Master.'
The ideas were taught in order, each building on the last, until the student is eventually able to reach the summit and realize that no words can
That's the same thing Buddha did. We can't comprehend 'God'. That's why the prayer says "which passeth understanding".
The "all men are sinners" bit was not Jesus, either. It was added 5 centuries later. Likewise the Trinity was meant to be an 'inconceivable' thing,
but since most people aren't able to think metaphysically, and are unable to rise above their senses to the place of 'awareness' - which there ARE NO
WORDS to explain -
the priests at the time invented the Trinity. Some said it was three separate persons making up one. But 'God' is definitely NOT A PERSON. Some
said the Holy Spirit was feminine. Some said the Holy Spirit represents the "pure, unconditional love of a father for a son."
Unless people have been parents, loving, kind parents of the regular sort who, when their child arrives, looks into the eyes of the baby and a
magical, transformative adoration and love that far transcends ANYTHING between partners in a peer to peer relationship, they CAN NOT KNOW what it's
like. And no one can make a non-parent understand it TRULY. It's a life-changing experience that one MUST experience in order to comprehend it.
The concept of division from God is an attempt to clarify that no matter what we say or think or imagine, 'God' is BIGGER THAN THAT. That
why it is considered "beyond understanding". The spiritual leaders knew this - and that is part of the reason they were reluctant to let the
'secrets' and 'scriptures' be available to the public -
BECAUSE THEY KNEW that the public would NOT UNDERSTAND.
Just like Jesus supposedly spoke in parables for those who could not grasp the higher and utterly inconceivable 'true reality' that he - as a mystic
- was able to see. Many, many teachers - just like Buddha - have been able to achieve this enlightenment. The Greeks knew it was beyond words, as
well - and that attempting to explain it was futile.
The danger in allowing the masses and common people (uneducated and incapable of philosophical reasoning due to lack of exposure, training, and
temperament) to develop their "own" way of "describing" 'God' leads to icon worship, idolatry, misunderstanding and a banal, base, materialistic idea
of 'God' that is pedestrian and impotent.
AND BOY WERE THEY RIGHT!
edit on 6-2-2013 by wildtimes because: to correct incomplete sentences.