Has The Amazing Purpose Of Petrospheres AKA Neolithic Stone Balls Finally Been Discovered?, page 4


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reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 03:49 AM by Panic2k11
reply to post by Robonakka



The size is too small, I had that idea also... I would go with game peaces...


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 04:14 AM by LadyGreenEyes
reply to post by MysterX



WOW! Nice catch, OP! That's pretty amazing. If those are indeed representations of pollen, then it's clear they could SEE the real thing, microscopically, way back whenever! No debate at all. ONLY question would be, how accurate are the dates on the stones? If definitely OLD, as in, uncovered someplace they had to be older than a certain point, etc, then that's something!

I have long believed that there has been technology that was lost, because of some cataclysm, and something like this is pretty good proof!


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 05:01 AM by MysterX
Some fantastic thoughts and theories being offered from you good people, thanks.

To answer a question about what material these objects are made from, mainly stone of all kinds...some are made from sandstone, easy to carve, but probably wouldn't have been hard or resilient enough for weapons, or Bolos.

Others are made from Granites, including the extremely hard and difficult to carve Diorite.

It's also possible some were made from wood, although unless preserved would have rotted away. Others may have been carved from bone or ivory, and could possibly survive the passing of time...still waiting to be found somewhere in Scotland or elsewhere.

Wooden and bone spheres, carved in the same manner as these stone examples, would probably go some way to excluding them as weapons too, as they would be too light and brittle.

It's still entirely possible that there are many more yet to be found..only something like 390 have been found, plenty more could be laying around to be discovered.

It's also possible that the Celts or Picts didn't actually carve these things in their entirety...they may have found them already carved, and then further refined the designs on them, adding spirals, whirls and pictograms, maybe even thousands of years after they were originally made by persons unknown. The evidence of this is yet to be found, but would come from finding more examples of these stones in layers of strata much older than those occupied by the Celts or the Picts.

The posters speaking about platonic solids could be onto something...what though, eludes me to be honest..but perhaps there is a connection with sacred geometry.

I love the idea of the water drop magnification...perhaps the 'laser' element could simply have been a guided shaft of light from the Sun? Plenty of Neolithic monuments are focused on rising and setting of the Sun, perhaps the lightpaths were constructed to focus and concentrate beams of light for the purpose of making the unseen...seen. It's as valid a reason for these precise constructions as any, and i'd imagine would have had a profound effect, being able to see essentially invisible objects, like grains of pollen projected onto a wall at certain times of the year.

The effect would be like magic and very spiritual i'd imagine.

You guys are great, keep the theories coming!



reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 06:44 AM by skalla
reply to post by MysterX



further to the bolo theory, which imo is by far the most likely and best supported at present, these "balls" at three inches are the right size (counter to panic2k11 above) - the balls themselves do no have to cause damage as the purpose of the weapon is to entangle. this could have been used for hunting and acquiring slaves (which the celts certainly engaged in).

also it is not unusual that granite or diorite would be used, and they are infact emminently workable - a short trip on google will show this, but here are some easily found examples..






images2.bridgemanart.com...
in this pic the ground axe on the left is diorite

obvs the material is hard, but that just means it takes time to work it - the balls that you show may have taken a day or two to work but thats all.

effective bolos can and are made from wood, bone and antler too - there are a couple of examples in the link i posted on page one. all of these materials are dense (with wood you just need the right variety, and with bone/antler you just need to choose the right section of material to work - moose antler, or thick deer antler near the crown is extremely dense for example).

i think that with the idea that they are game pieces is a possibility, though celts and proto celts certainly had the skills to make them much smaller, if we are talking a board game such as fidchel which is mentioned in irish mythology for example - marble sized pieces would be more like it.

i'm open minded as to their purpose, just wanted to contribute


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 06:54 AM by Baddogma
reply to post by MysterX



I hate cluttering excellent threads with dumb one liners that only the poster thinks are cute... but...

"I got yer neolithic stone balls right here!"

With that outta my system I want to say that the OP is cool if for nothing else than creative thinking. That ancient man might have had a way to see the microscopic through shamanic trance or by creating lenses isn't impossible.

It's just that I have a problem with many ideas about the identity and use of ancient objects, both mainstream and not. The objects we can identify since they're still being used in nearly the same form or spelled out in diagrams is one thing, but some objects are wide open to many interpretations and definitive labels can't work unless we invent time machines.

Throwing around ideas is still fun, though, and even constructive. I think they were for cosmetic purposes, as in Trucknuts, or doggy nueticles... round fertility symbols, sure.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 08:19 AM by MysterX
Originally posted by evc1shop
I looked at this thread earlier today and wasn't sure what to make of it. Then, tonight while checking out this other ATS post, I was amazed to see your spheres in this post , check out the 3rd video in this post titled Sacred Geometry Explained Part 2 of 2. At about 3 Minutes 24 seconds into it.
Possible Explaination
I am not trying to take the wind out of your sails and I'm not saying he has nailed it either but it is convincing...

What do you think?
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edit on 6-2-2013 by evc1shop because: added time notation


Been doing a little research and came across this video lecture.

It's more or less talking about platonic solids and sacred geometry in relation to these very stones.

Early Mathematics video lecture


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 08:52 AM by evc1shop
reply to post by MysterX

Yes, I am going with these stones are eaither teaching aids or ornamental representaitons of the most basic structures found in nature. Commonly referred to as the Platonic Solids. The video that I pointed to in the post you have quoted also says there is another set of, shapes that are based on these which are interesting as well. There is a mention of the dodecahedron which we are more familiar with than the others since they are the famous "bucky balls". It woudl appear that the early civilizations had a pretty good grasp of things we still do not fully understand.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 09:52 AM by Plotus
The spheres seem to be copies of pollen, or that could be coincidence. But one would be led to think they were patterned after the pollen. But how could they be seen? You would have to have a magnifying device. Were there any in those times? Well yes there were in the early Greek times.

The earliest written records of lenses date to Ancient Greece, with Aristophanes' play The Clouds (424 BC) mentioning a burning-glass (a biconvex lens used to focus the sun's rays to produce fire). Some scholars argue that the archeological evidence indicates that there was widespread use of lenses in antiquity, spanning several millennia.[7] Such lenses were used by artisans for fine work, and for authenticating seal impressions. The writings of Pliny the Elder (23–79) show that burning-glasses were known to the Roman Empire,[8] and mentions what is arguably the earliest written reference to a corrective lens: Nero was said to watch the gladiatorial games using an emerald (presumably concave to correct for nearsightedness, though the reference is vague).[9] Both Pliny and Seneca the Younger (3 BC–65) described the magnifying effect of a glass globe filled with water.

This might account for the existence of magnification that possibly might be able to discern the pollen shapes. I will just leave that there.
Beyond that the spherical stones and the three sided stone appear as though they could well have been Bolo tips. Or a Cat of nine tails type weapon with a single handle or loop of leather/sinew and the stones affixed by shrinking the leather to fit, or tying them, or possibly some sort of braiding. Perhaps if they were weapons, they might have come loose in combat and fell to the wayside, or were it in rain, the leather which had been shrunk onto the spheres, relaxed due to becoming wet again, and were lost in that way.

Of course this does nothing to explain the Costa Rican stones and their meaning, since their size is vastly dissimilar.
You bring up some interesting questions...
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reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 11:51 AM by yamammasamonkey
reply to post by MysterX



Very cool similarities. I thought for sure you were going to show us coral, that's what it made me think of. Many shapes and forms are repeated throughout the "natural" world. I wonder if these can be found elsewhere that are visible to the unaided eye. Have you any information on the type of stone used for these carvings. Is it definitely stone and definitely carved; or could it be something which was fossilized?


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:11 PM by superbuker
reply to post by MysterX



Love how your mind works OP.

Be warming for sometime now to the idea that ancient technology was more advanced than we give credit for. In fact this was my first ATS post...

For uses of the rocks... what about this one...

Massage Balls



Managed to match some of the the other shapes also.

Be sure to CHECK OUT BAK BALLS!!! BakBalls

Tennis Balls and Golf Balls also often Used as Massage Balls

Why Stone Balls? - I would image these balls along with the hardness to act as a trigger point. Stone balls could also be heated near a fire and the heat of the fire would add a lot of benefit to the aches and pains of the people back then.
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reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 12:37 PM by Rodinus
Just casting something out here :

Hi all,

What if these mysterious balls were just objects used to play like the famous game in France called Petanque

See link to have a view of the older type of nailed balls :
www.boulistenaute.com...

Diaporama number 4 in the photos section if you end up on the main page in France

Otherwise type out the following in Google search and images "anciennes boules de pétanque cloutées"

Like i said... just casting something out!

Kindest respects

Rodinus


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:00 PM by Cherry0
reply to post by passit



My first thought when looking at the shapes of these balls were the similarities to sacred geometry. I am glad I am not the only one to notice that. Thanks for mentioning it Passit.

I've looked at the different images of bolo balls and just don't think that is what these ancient balls are. Not ruling it out completely, just a little skeptical about them being some kind of weapon.

Just my 2 cents.


reply posted on 7-2-2013 @ 01:27 PM by LucidDreamer85
reply to post by skalla



None of those look like that and some of the shapes wouldn't be good for holding the rope.
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