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EDIT: Here's FIGU confirmation of it....
www.figu.org...
"Furthermore, I was permitted to photograph a laser pistol with which I shot a hole into the trunk of a dying apple tree which, by the way, miraculously began to suddenly bloom and bear fruit once again, something it had not done for years."
However again, I need a source to verify these are his photographs. I am sorry, but again being an intelligent investigator, means not blindly accepting someones word that the said photographs are Meiers. Further, the man in the photograph is unclear, he could be anyone for all I know.
If there is no reliable or credible source corroborating the photographs origins are from Meier, then there is no argument, and it terminates there.
Originally posted by TerraX
What are your impressions of the movie clip?
www.billymeier.com...
I hadn't seen this one before.Although the resolution isn't that high, it's still very intriquing.This footage doesn't give me the impression it's a model and if it's a fake then I wonder how it's done.
Agreed....I too would like a stronger link between the photos and Meier. However, you cannot deny that this would then have to be another one-armed man who looks VERY similar to Meier did at the time in question (based on other photos of him in that timeframe). Also, the location should be easy enough to verify, as the center (where the pics were taken) is supposedly still around. That would also help verify the connection.
I disagree there. We have just as much reason to accept, not accept these photos as Meier's as we do the ones on his site. We also have the corraborating statement in Billy's own words, that he was permitted to photograph the "ray gun" at the time in question, which further bolster's the pics' credibility, as well as the unquestionable presence of a one-armed man in one photo.
Originally posted by Peronemlin
What about the laser gun pictures? They look convincing enough for me...
I have video of Meier's 8mm film footage showing Meier displaying the weapon and demonstrating how he shot a 1 to 2-inch diameter hole through a large tree which he films up close. I've seen the hole in the mid-90s when I visited Meier's place. The team that went over there documented the fact that the hole was "burned" through the tree
(referring to one of the posted pics of the Billy Meier "ray gun")
I have no reason at this point in time to doubt the veracity of that picture.
I have video of Meier's 8mm film footage showing Meier displaying the weapon and demonstrating how he shot a 1 to 2-inch diameter hole through a large tree which he films up close. I've seen the hole in the mid-90s when I visited Meier's place. The team that went over there documented the fact that the hole was "burned" through the tree
Originally posted by TerraX
What are your impressions of the movie clip?
www.billymeier.com...
I hadn't seen this one before.Although the resolution isn't that high, it's still very intriquing.This footage doesn't give me the impression it's a model and if it's a fake then I wonder how it's done.
Originally posted by Gazrok
Guess we'll see if Horn answers...
BTW-in case he gets a burr up his butt and orders the pics down by stating copyright (which of course would then legitimize them, hehe..)...I'd highly recommend right click, save as...
[edit on 1-12-2004 by Gazrok]
Originally posted by Peronemlin
Originally posted by TerraX
What are your impressions of the movie clip?
www.billymeier.com...
I hadn't seen this one before.Although the resolution isn't that high, it's still very intriquing.This footage doesn't give me the impression it's a model and if it's a fake then I wonder how it's done.
It does give the impression of being a model. And I find very suspicious the fact that it is not moving (although if it moved, it would surely spin around like hanging from a string, as many Meier�s films). It�s also suspicious that it has a tree behind it, surely to hide props that hold the model.
My opininon is that the model is hanging from a bar, attached to the tree. (the model itself hides the bar). The bar passes through the leaves and is attached to the trunk.
Originally posted by TerraX
it's an awfull lot of work.
Originally posted by Gazrok
Guess we'll see if Horn answers...
just noted something about all the photographs, a potentially dead give-away, that these photographs are indeed fakes(not Meiers) If you note the caption below the photographs, they state the origin as "semyase silver star centre" when in fact it is called semjase silver star centre. In fact if you google it, you will not find a single source using "semyase silver star center"
Originally posted by Peronemlin
Originally posted by TerraX
it's an awfull lot of work.
Awfull lot of work?!?!
It�s just a stick attached to tree...it could even been tied instead of nailed...I think it�s really simple...you could do it even with one hand (sorry, I couln�t resist the temptation!)
I actually noticed that myself, but given the y and j substitution in many languages, it's not especially surprising....
Originally posted by TerraX
Originally posted by Peronemlin
Originally posted by TerraX
it's an awfull lot of work.
Awfull lot of work?!?!
It�s just a stick attached to tree...it could even been tied instead of nailed...I think it�s really simple...you could do it even with one hand (sorry, I couln�t resist the temptation!)
Fascinating.....You forgot to weigh the model down so it doesn't get blown down by the wind.