Nope. They are another bunch of lousy racists.

Visit the site and you'll see. Click on some of the links down the middle of the page.

[edit on 29-10-2004 by LTD602]

Okay people, this is not something I am proud of and I have been holding off on this for a while, ever since I read the "Secrets of the KKK" thread in Secret Societies, but in my from my young teens until my mid 20's I was involved with the National Alliance and other (3 to be exact) groups such as them...one of them was even mentioned in a speech by Sen. Orrin Hatch, this same group was listed by the Southern Poverty Law Center as one of the most dangerous and active hate groups in the US and was the focus of one of their articles called "Pagans and Prisons"...needless to say, I finally grew up and saw the error of my ways and found God...I could give more info if anybody wants to read it, as this has been eating at me for a while and I feel the need to get some of it off of my chest

I would actually love to learn more from the stand point of one which was part of the organization rather than from one who still is and is basically trying to recruit.

Unload thier ideology on me, I need knowledge....

It does appear to be a White Supremacist group. They're always sort of a squicky issue with me -- I'm forever tempted to turn them in, but it's considered protected speech.

This kind of rhetoric is more alarming than the usual shrieking and frothing, because it leads you to its conclusions by a series of gentle steps. Everyone thinks that the media isn't reporting everything it can. Everyone thinks (or knows) that reporters will slant towards their perspective (I won't, for instance, give a glowing report on the latest Save The Males campaign...) They then point out Jews or Jewish-sounding names in controlling positions and lead you to the logic leap (or, rather, push you over the cliff) that Jews are running everything.

Dangerous.

Right, Byrd. It's all clothed in the wording of political discourse.

They're no better than the shriekers and such, but they are more dangerous beause they seem to have some semblance of organization.

Okay, here we go...first the Disclaimer:
I do not now espouse these views, these are things from my past that happened and are purely for information, if they offend you then I am sorry, or if you think they may offend you then dont read it.


My involvement with these organizations began when I was about 15, there was a Klan rally in a local city and some of my friends and I skipped school and went to it, we stood around for a while and listened, took the leaflets and read them, the speaker was a guy named William (Bill) Riccio, he was a very captivating speaker and seemed quite smart, well I hung around after the rally and got to meet Mr. Riccio, when I mentioned to him that my Great Grandfather and My Grandfather were Klan members, he seemed even more interested in me and he gave me a business card, when I read the card I learned that the reason that Mr.Riccio was the key speaker was that he was currently the National Organizer for the Klan, and he just happened to live about 30 minutes away from me, well one day I called him back, he asked me if I still had his card, when I said yes, he asked me to read off something written on the back of it, "Lebensraum"(which I later learned was German for "living space"), then he immediately remembered me and invited me to a meeting on Saturday at his house and I went, this was the now defunct "Aryan National Front", basically just a bunch of white kids getting drunk and yelling "WHITE POWER" and "SEIG HEIL"...4 of these kids that I were friends with got arrested for beating a homeless black man to death...the ANF was basically a doorway for me and others for Aryan Nations(AKA The Skinheads), who is loosely affiliated with the National Alliance (we just called NatAll, and we called their quarterly magazine NatVan, short for National Vanguard", my involvement with this group(NatAll) was about the longest of any of them, I paid dues and received their magazine for about 8-10 years, and would attend meetings infrequently, mostly we just handed out fliers and stickers, and actually Justmytype, my favorite flier happened to be the what I think is the one you received..."WANTED: A Future For White Children"? is that the one

anyway, after a few years I saw less and less of Mr.Riccio, mostly because he kept getting arrested...the last time was for a weapons charge, when he spent about 5 years, but by this time I was about 17 or 18 and was pretty deep in "the movement" as we called it, arranging meetings, giving speeches, etc..(side note: never believe the favorite saying that it begins at home...my father is a very educated man, a college teacher to be exact, who once when I said the "N" word in front of him, told me "if I ever hear that word come out of your mouth again, I'll slap you in it")

There are obviously some things that I cant and wont talk about, but before you get any ideas, I never participated in any kind of physical violence against anyone of a different race that wasnt instigated against me..by this I mean I never participated in the "Hey lets go beat us a _____"

back to the story: this went on for about 5 more years until I started a new job...I met a guy there and we became fast friends when we found out that we held the same views, and he invited me to his house, he was about 4-5 years younger than me and he was involved in the movement also, I'll never forget walking into his living room and seeing a giant wall to wall Nazi flag hanging up, he told me that he was involved with a group called the Sonnenkinder Kindred, an Odinist/National Socialist organization..
basically meaning that they were Nazi skinheads that worshipped the ancient scandinavian gods...Odin, Thor, Freya, etc...this religion is actually called Asatru...anyway he asked me if I was interested in joining, I told him that the Nazi part sounded good, but that I was an agnostic, and didnt really care about the religion part, but they let me join anyway...this was the reason that they split the group into 2 parts, for people like me who didnt really care about being pagan, anyway, the meetings were on every other Saturday at the "Compound"...one of the older members of the group (50 something), owned about 100 acres on top of a mountain about 50 miles from my house, we had a grove of pines that we called "the circle', since the trees formed a perfect circle around us, this is where we had our meetings when it wasnt raining, when it was we either called it off, or if there wasnt too many people, we'd have it in the guys house, I remember one evening when we were having a meeting when some guys drove right up to the circle in a white Dodge K car and got out, telling us that we were lost...they both had on coveralls but they had on dress shoes, like the kind with the tassles hanging off of them, we wondered if these were FBI or some other kind of government agents...and I still wonder today, I remember my first time there, scared crapless, when almost everybody had on these black hooded cloaks, were chanting something in German and they had a GIANT (6 foot across) Swastika wrapped in rags on a 30 foot pole, on fire raised to the sky..


anyway, I've gotta go pick my kid up from school, more later

try googling these:

William Riccio Aryan National Front

Sonnenkinder Kindred

then go to www.splcenter.com and search for Sonnenkinder Kindred

thanks for the information and you are excactly correct, That was the flyer I recieved. So I guess me being a proud white bisexual wouldnt go over well within thier groups especially being jewish and all... lol , ROTFLMAO actually I am not Jewish but am a proud white bisexual male.

Well I really appreciate your honesty and it shows how much of a real man you are that you can earn up to somethings you might have felt were wrong when you were a kid..

again, much appreciated..