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posted on Feb, 6 2013 @ 08:46 PM
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reply to post by NarrowGate
 

You realize that those dates were chosen to better integrate pagans, and some of their beliefs, into the Christian faith right?

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Who says your interpretation of God is right? Nor does your opinion matter on who is or is not a Mason.

Hindus believe that Brahman is Supreme Self, the one true God, but that there is a myriad of gods and goddesses that are just personifications and aspects of Brahman.

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I have no problem calling AM "Brother". Just because he holds a different opinion than you doesn't make him a bad Mason.




posted on Feb, 6 2013 @ 09:05 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Feb, 6 2013 @ 09:07 PM
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The relationship of the 6 and 5 is also found in the '___' molecule. It usually represents the heavenly (6) and material (5) uniting.

Dimethyltryptamine
'___': aka the Spirit Molecule, is a hexagon and pentagon attached to each other and when combined with the use of numbers like 33 (number of vertebrae in spine prior to the skull which houses the pineal gland which in turn produces '___') or representations of the 'gods' holding pine cones (babylonian gods) or acorns (buddha) it becomes fairly clear what one of the uses of the numbers means.



en.wikipedia.org...


N,N-Dimethyltryptamine ('___' or N,N-'___') is a psychedelic compound of the tryptamine family. Its presence is widespread throughout the plant kingdom.[3][4] '___' occurs in trace amounts in mammals, including humans, where it putatively functions as a trace amine neurotransmitter/neuromodulator.[5] It is originally derived from the essential amino acid tryptophan and ultimately produced by the enzyme INMT during normal metabolism.[6] The significance of its widespread natural presence remains undetermined. Structurally, '___' is analogous to the neurotransmitter serotonin (5-HT), the hormone melatonin, and other psychedelic tryptamines, such as 5-MeO-'___', bufotenin, psilocin and psilocybin.

. . .

Psychedelic properties

'___' is produced naturally in many species of plants often in conjunction with its close chemical relatives 5-MeO-'___' and bufotenin (5-OH-'___').[87] '___'-containing plants are commonly used in South American Shamanic practices. It is usually one of the main active constituents of the drink ayahuasca,[88][89] however ayahuasca is sometimes brewed with plants which don't produce '___'. It occurs as the primary psychoactive alkaloid in several plants including Mimosa tenuiflora, Diplopterys cabrerana, and Psychotria viridis. '___' is found as a minor alkaloid in snuff made from Virola bark resin in which 5-MeO-'___' is the main active alkaloid.[87] '___' is also found as a minor alkaloid in bark, pods, and beans of Anadenanthera peregrina and Anadenanthera colubrina used to make Yopo and Vilca snuff in which bufotenin is the main active alkaloid.[87][90] Psilocin, an active chemical in many psychedelic mushrooms, is structurally similar to '___'.

The psychotropic effects of '___' were first studied scientifically by the Hungarian chemist and psychologist Dr. Stephen Szára who performed research with volunteers in the mid-1950s. Szára, who later worked for the US National Institutes of Health, had turned his attention to '___' after his order for '___' from the Swiss company Sandoz Laboratories was rejected on the grounds that the powerful psychotropic could be dangerous in the hands of a communist country.[13]
'___' can produce powerful psychedelic experiences including intense visuals, euphoria and hallucinations (perceived extensions of reality).[8] '___' is generally not active orally unless it is combined with a monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI) such as a reversible inhibitor of monoamine oxidase A (RIMA), for example, harmaline.[9] Without an MAOI, the body quickly metabolizes orally administered '___', and it therefore has no hallucinogenic effect unless the dose exceeds monoamine oxidase's metabolic capacity. Other means of ingestion such as smoking, injecting, or insufflating the drug can produce powerful hallucinations and entheogenic activity for a short time (usually less than half an hour), as the '___' reaches the brain before it can be metabolized by the body's natural monoamine oxidase. Taking a MAOI prior to smoking or injecting '___' prolongs and potentiates the effects.[8]


Also numerology stems form Pythagoras an initiate of the mysteries of Egypt and identifies numbers as a more pure form of communication with nature.



posted on Feb, 6 2013 @ 09:32 PM
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Most of the religions or societies that use these numbers and symbols are based on astro-theology. They often align structures with stars/ star constellations which have symbolic meaning pertaining to the purpose of the structure.

For example the bent pyramid of Egypt has a ratio between the top and bottom of a 5 and 6.
Bent Pyramid
en.wikipedia.org...

More interesting is the Washington monument which was originally proposed as a series of pyramids. The Egyptian styled obelisk erected to honor a freemason and whose corner laying ceremonies have interesting celestial alignments associated with them as outlined in;

The Secret Architecture of Our Nation's Capital: The Masons and the Building of Washington, D.C.
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Washington Monument
en.wikipedia.org...

The obelisk is 555.5 tall or 6666 inches and when aligned with the primary constellation of Washington D.C., Virgo her hand lies as if holding the the obelisk. Thus another use of uniting the heavens with the material.

This video and blog provides a great deal of information which demonstrates the use of methods such as these in construction by powerful organizations and families.



The demonstration of the Washington monument is demonstrated at approx 33 minutes into the video.

The bent pyramid demonstration is approx 1 hour 41 minutes into the video.
edit on 6-2-2013 by FriedBabelBroccoli because: 101



posted on Feb, 6 2013 @ 11:49 PM
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It's also interesting to note that the pentagram represents 'phi' or the golden ratio.

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My astrological sign is Virgo and I find everything connected to her to be fascinating.



posted on Feb, 6 2013 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
The obelisk is 555.5 tall or 6666 inches
Except, of course, when it's not...


Several heights have been specified, all of which exclude the foundation whose top was 17 feet (5.2 m) above the pre-construction ground level. The foundation is surrounded by a roughly circular mound of earth and gneiss rubble which gradually rises from the surrounding terrain to the top of the foundation, effectively placing the foundation below ground level.[1] This mound serves as a buttress for the foundation.
  • 555 feet 51⁄8 inches (169.294 m) according to the National Park Service[2] given above. Reported in 1885 by the engineer in charge of construction.[3]
  • 554 feet 111⁄2 inches (169.151 m) according to 1994 architectural drawings, base to tip.[1]
    rawings: East elevation Differs significantly from other reported heights.
  • 555 feet 51⁄2 inches (169.304 m) according to the U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey, measured in 1934 using a metal chain.[4]
  • 555 feet 5.9 inches (169.314 m) according to the U.S. National Geodetic Survey, measured in 1999 using GPS receivers.[4][5] Never officially adopted by the NGS.
    Given the 1885 height, a set of lightning rods installed in 1934 around the aluminum apex, which protrude above its tip by another 15.2 centimeters (6.0 in),[6] are not included in these heights. Between 1884 and 1934 the apex had been struck by lightning many times, blunting its tip and losing about 1⁄2 inches (1.3 cm) in height.



  • posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 12:38 AM
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    Originally posted by JoshNorton

    Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
    The obelisk is 555.5 tall or 6666 inches
    Except, of course, when it's not...


    Several heights have been specified, all of which exclude the foundation whose top was 17 feet (5.2 m) above the pre-construction ground level. The foundation is surrounded by a roughly circular mound of earth and gneiss rubble which gradually rises from the surrounding terrain to the top of the foundation, effectively placing the foundation below ground level.[1] This mound serves as a buttress for the foundation.
  • 555 feet 51⁄8 inches (169.294 m) according to the National Park Service[2] given above. Reported in 1885 by the engineer in charge of construction.[3]
  • 554 feet 111⁄2 inches (169.151 m) according to 1994 architectural drawings, base to tip.[1]
    rawings: East elevation Differs significantly from other reported heights.
  • 555 feet 51⁄2 inches (169.304 m) according to the U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey, measured in 1934 using a metal chain.[4]
  • 555 feet 5.9 inches (169.314 m) according to the U.S. National Geodetic Survey, measured in 1999 using GPS receivers.[4][5] Never officially adopted by the NGS.
    Given the 1885 height, a set of lightning rods installed in 1934 around the aluminum apex, which protrude above its tip by another 15.2 centimeters (6.0 in),[6] are not included in these heights. Between 1884 and 1934 the apex had been struck by lightning many times, blunting its tip and losing about 1⁄2 inches (1.3 cm) in height.


  • You should provide your sources when you cite information.

    Also you should include notation when you include your own additions to material.

    For example:


  • 555 feet 5.9 inches (169.314 m) according to the U.S. National Geodetic Survey, measured in 1999 using GPS receivers.[4][5] Never officially adopted by the NGS. (
    *)

    *added by poster


  • 555 feet does appear to be the consensus . . .

    5 1/8 inches ~ half foot = 6 inches

    5 1/2 inches ~ half foot = 6 inches

    554 feet 11.5 inches ~ 555 feet = 6660 inches


    Given the 1885 height, a set of lightning rods installed in 1934 around the aluminum apex, which protrude above its tip by another 15.2 centimeters (6.0 in)


    Oh so they added another 6 inches huh . . .

    555-555.5 feet is the range of the excepted height. This does not change the ratio of the 555/666.


    I know you can do better than this, its almost as lame as an AM post.


    Next are you going to tell me that coffins are not masonic symbols?





    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 05:36 AM
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    what magical power do you feel the 5's and 6's hold?

    What is the significance of those numbers being used in construction? (from a magic perspective)

    edit to add: Oh, and any bonehead knows that the coffin is indeed a masonic symbol.
    edit on 7-2-2013 by network dude because: Beating a dead horse will make you tired, and the horse tender.



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 11:57 AM
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    Corny Story...

    Here goes:
    The 5 Pointed Star Worshipped By The Nefarious Gang "Latin Kings" Is Used As Such:
    1. Respect... Esoterically Symbolic To "Psychology" (The Knowledge And Reverence)
    2. Honesty... Esoterically Symbolic To "Politics" (Honesty And So On...)
    3. Unity... Esoterically Symbolic To "Penal Code" (Strict Adherence To Promote Unity)
    4. Knowledge... Esoterically Symbolic To "Politheism" (Deism And Knowledge Of...)
    5. Love... Esoterically Symbolic To "Philosophy" (The Love Of Wisdom)

    Thus... One Can Conclude That Therein Found Is A Belief System Which Implicates More Essentials Than There Is Found In The Common Hoodlum... If Only They Knew Eh???



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 01:52 PM
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    Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
    Next are you going to tell me that coffins are not masonic symbols?

    Not every coffin is a Masonic symbol. Symbolism is not exclusive to one group or interpretation, and some Masonic symbols are not universally used in all jurisdictions.



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 05:54 PM
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    First of all,thanks for the info. I haven't seen the video yet but I will.

    I wanted to say that,with your posts,the difference between the widely accepted christianic symbol which is the cross and symbols from other religions,ancient civilizations etc becomes even more clear.
    In one hand there is a simple and straightforward symbol,being a reminder of Jesus Christ's self-sacrifice,forgiveness,His later-on victory over death and many other things.
    In the other hand we see symbols based loyally on numbers,geometry,astrology but also personal desire.

    I think this speaks for itself.



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 06:12 PM
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    So you're saying other religions don't have simple and straight forward symbols? Really?

    Also, are you saying that the cross doesn't have a numerological interpretation? Or that it has connection to astrology? Really?



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 06:20 PM
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    Originally posted by KSigMason
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    So you're saying other religions don't have simple and straight forward symbols? Really?

    Also, are you saying that the cross doesn't have a numerological interpretation? Or that it has connection to astrology? Really?


    Their symbols' meaning are up to the person that uses them,isn't that correct? I wouldn't call that straight forward.

    The christian cross itself doesn't have numerological meaning. Now,if some people did think otherwise then that's their business. The symbol of cross was taken from the device that was used to kill Jesus which was a cross.
    It doesn't have connections to astrology.

    EDIT: I'd like to add that I wasn't talking about every single symbol in this world. I was mostly talking about the symbols mentioned in this thread. I can't know every single symbol that exists.
    edit on 7-2-2013 by Oceanborn because: (no reason given)



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 06:34 PM
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    Originally posted by Oceanborn
    The symbol of cross was taken from the device that was used to kill Jesus which was a cross.


    There is no historical consensus on what type of device Jesus would have been crucified on as the crux immissa, or the cross that Christians use to signify the Crucifixion, was not the only type used.

    The Romans also used a crux simplex which was a stake and the crux commissa which was in the shape of a letter 'T'. They would also frequently crucify victims on a tree.

    The early writings of its shape refer to it having the shape of the crux immissa as is evidenced by the Epistle of Saint Barnabas in the Codex Sinaiticus which uses the Greek letter 'Tau' (T) to describe its shape. It is believed that this was written no latter than the early second century.



    edit on 7-2-2013 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 06:44 PM
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    Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

    Originally posted by Oceanborn
    The symbol of cross was taken from the device that was used to kill Jesus which was a cross.


    There is no historical consensus on what type of device Jesus would have been crucified on as the crux immissa, or the cross that Christians use to signify the Crucifixion, was not the only type used.

    The Romans also used a crux simplex which was a stake and the crux commissa which was in the shape of a letter 'T'. They would also frequently crucify victims on a tree.

    The early writings of its shape refer to it having the shape of the crux immissa as is evidenced by the Epistle of Saint Barnabas in the Codex Sinaiticus which uses the Greek letter 'Tau' (T) to describe its shape. It is believed that this was written no latter than the early second century.



    edit on 7-2-2013 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer


    I agree about romans using several kinds of devices but the epistle is disputable.



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 06:55 PM
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    Originally posted by Oceanborn
    I agree about romans using several kinds of devices but the epistle is disputable.


    How is the Epistle of Barnabas disputable? It is present in one of the oldest Bibles in existence and was written by the same person who wrote the most of the Old and almost all of the New Testaments contained therein.



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:19 PM
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    Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

    Originally posted by Oceanborn
    I agree about romans using several kinds of devices but the epistle is disputable.


    How is the Epistle of Barnabas disputable? It is present in one of the oldest Bibles in existence and was written by the same person who wrote the most of the Old and almost all of the New Testaments contained therein.


    This quote is from the wiki for the Epistle of Barnabas



    The first editor of the epistle, Hugo Menardus (1645) advocated the genuineness of its ascription to Barnabas, but the opinion today is that Barnabas was not the author.



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:35 PM
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    Originally posted by Oceanborn
    The first editor of the epistle, Hugo Menardus (1645) advocated the genuineness of its ascription to Barnabas, but the opinion today is that Barnabas was not the author.


    It is irrelevant whether Barnabas is the author or not, otherwise we can begin to question all of the New Testament, particularly the Gospels, as they were not authored by the persons they are named for.

    The fact that the author, whomever they may be, who wrote Barnabas also wrote almost the entirety of the Codex Sinaiticus makes the work, as a whole, consistent, and therefore credible in its context.



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 07:47 PM
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    Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

    Originally posted by Oceanborn
    The first editor of the epistle, Hugo Menardus (1645) advocated the genuineness of its ascription to Barnabas, but the opinion today is that Barnabas was not the author.


    It is irrelevant whether Barnabas is the author or not, otherwise we can begin to question all of the New Testament, particularly the Gospels, as they were not authored by the persons they are named for.

    The fact that the author, whomever they may be, who wrote Barnabas also wrote almost the entirety of the Codex Sinaiticus makes the work, as a whole, consistent, and therefore credible in its context.


    But it's not included even in the New Testament. It's not in mine and I've also read that in general it's not included.

    I'm gonna look up for english sources about it.

    EDIT: I saw that it was a part of a bible and that's why some adopted it as a part of the New Testament.
    I assume I don't need the sources after all since it's not really a part of NT.
    edit on 7-2-2013 by Oceanborn because: (no reason given)



    posted on Feb, 7 2013 @ 08:59 PM
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    1)
    5 / 6 and the US $1 note



    The image of the Great Seal is composed of 13 5 pointed stars in the shape of a 6 pointed star.

    These 13 stars were once called the new constellation by some founding fathers. The constellation was the Lyra constellation which was a bird holding a harp. This bird holding a harp was proposed by John Quincy Adams and later used on a US pass port.

    Lyra (constellation)
    en.wikipedia.org...:Lyra_%28constellation%29

    The importance of 13 is gleaned from the astro-theology aspect which represents the 12 signs of the zodiac and the Sun making 13. It represents the solar man or enlightenment (aka ILLUMINATION, as well as 33)

    An earlier depiction of the 13 stars was in the shape of a double cross. This was the unifying of the four corners of the Earth and the four corners of the zodiac (heavens, think the 4 angels involved in the revelation).


    5, the pentagram and Phi.
    mathworld.wolfram.com...

    The five pointed star also encodes the procession of the Sun. 72 degrees between each point. This further reinforces the association with the Sun, Sun god, and most likely illumination.


    2)
    Pope Sixtus the 5th was also greatly involved in moving Egyptian iconography to Rome. Now lets not forget that Rome was the home of the Vatican which was an organization created by a priest of the Sol Invuctus (solar cult similar to Mithraism).

    Basically the 5 and 6 are involved in the illumination (aka enlightenment) process which most of these mystery schools believe will lead them to their new Atlantis, a heaven on Earth.






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