Native American Confronts Protesters on Illegal Immigration

Originally posted by Glassbender777
I didnt hear the Protestors shouting back, must of been a reality check. LOL

hahahaha ya ....if I was protesting...I would have felt completely awkward...

reply to post by ErgoTheConclusion


are you a game programmer?
i agree that the legalities are a problem and the lack of rationale in the minds of lawmakers to address it is being driven by marxist and stalinist ideology, with a nice heaping helping of fascism on top (note they are all forms of socialism that spell financial disaster for the people of any nation under their influences. for example, unemployment for blacks in socialized south africa, has risen from 5% to 50% since the end of apartheid because the socialist government there knows they can defray protests by indigenous blacks, about their condtions by simply blaming it on white farmers. which results in the death of white farmers and the loss of thousands of jobs for blacks and the destruction of the south african bread basket. it's almost like extra terrestrials from a hostile planet have invaded south africa under the guise of black skin pretending to care about the black plight, and instead are simply using it as a mechanism to genocide whites and degrade the quality of life of the indigenous blacks to their own self inflicted genocide. it's diabolical)

Originally posted by undo
are you a game programmer?

Designer, programmer, producer... mostly designer these days though I'm coding the game myself soo... heh.

Originally posted by undo
i agree that the legalities are a problem and the lack of rationale in the minds of lawmakers to address it is being driven by marxist and stalinist ideology, with a nice heaping helping of fascism on top (note they are all forms of socialism that spell financial disaster for the people of any nation under their influences. for example, unemployment for blacks in socialized south africa, has risen from 5% to 50% since the end of apartheid because the socialist government there knows they can defray protests about their condtions to simply blame it on white farmers. which results in the death of white farmers and the loss of thousands of jobs and the destruction of the south african bread basket. it's almost like extra terretrials from a hostile planet have invaded south africa under the guise of black skin pretending to care about the black plight, and instead are simply using it as a mechanism to genocide whites and degrade the quality of life of the indigenous blacks to their own self inflicted genocide. it's diabolical)

Diabolical is right. Which is why the only thing that will change the course is teaching people to think differently because a lot of effort has gone into obfuscating who to even look at and to make it easier to just find an easy target that won't put you in jail or fire you for complaining.

As for the rest... I've had a lot of fun from time to time contemplating the idea that the real truth is the "hidden cabal" is full of Black Women which would make for one of the most amazing plot twists that life could throw this civilization and all the fighting we've been up to.

I was supposed to sleep about 7 hours ago though, so will bid you adios (bwhahaahaa sorry ) Thank you for the discussion, I appreciated the opportunity to explore it as deeply with you.

reply to post by cornucopia
Ummmm.......The gentleman would be right...if he weren't so wrong...Look, I appreciate his passion but all of that took place a couple of hundred years ago. Everyone born in this land is a Native American...just not an aboriginal...His anger should be focused toward the government and not people protesting the inept policies of that government.....The government displaced the aborginal peoples of this land, stole their land, placed them on reservations and performed virtual genocide. The government tore apart aboriginal families and forced adoptions....I get his passion...I just think that it's misdirected.

YouSir

reply to post by FlyersFan

Europeans who settled in America weren't 'illegal immigrants'. There were no laws restricting them from coming in.

Law on the books or not, it was still wrong. They came here and basically took over. They robbed, raped, murdered, and purposely introduced small pox to the natives. The fact that laws weren't on the books doesn't make it any more 'okay'.

Unlike the illegals who come into America today who break laws coming here. They are an invasion of civilians .. and drug gangs ... And they will, in the end, become the new MAJORITY in this country.

That doesn't sound that much different than what the 'white' man did. The small pox introduction could be taken as biological warfare today. Last I checked rape, murder, and robbery are also illegal and would be wrong regardless if a law were on the books or not.

I don't blame immigrants for coming over the border. They get free food, medical, college grants, etc, why wouldn't they come over? Illinois even wants to give them driver's licenses. We are basically giving them incentives.

We might as well put up a big flashing 'OPEN' sign.

It's a double standard. Its alright for the 'white' man to come here and rape, murder, and pillage the natives, but, it's not okay for others to jump the border and commit crimes?

Hey, Pot? It's me, Kettle.

I am in no way saying that I condone illegal immigration, but, its funny that we complain about it, when immigration is the very mechanism by which our nation originated, especially when we are giving them so many incentives to do so.

reply to post by daryllyn


Exactly and when people picket the government to fix the problem by enforcing the laws they are labeled racist.


It's a double standard. Yeah it is when Mexico has strict immigration laws and can enforce them but if we want the same we are racists or suffer xenophobia.

reply to post by daryllyn

Its alright for the 'white' man to come here

would you like to go to jail today for someone else's crimes 100 year agos or even yesterday!?

reply to post by undo


I was only using that as an illustration to drive home my point that it is a double standard.

Do as I say, not as I do.

Originally posted by daryllyn
reply to post by undo

 

I was only using that as an illustration to drive home my point that it is a double standard.

Do as I say, not as I do.

as i do? i didn't do anything! that's the whole damn point.

reply to post by undo


Its called a figure of speech. That statement was meant to be taken figuratively, not literally.

I know 'you' didn't do anything.

reply to post by cornucopia

its the white man mentality of taking over, it's weird...

No its not, its the human mentality... Look at the history of India, China or Japan or even to the Inca Empire are to some regions in Africa or even to Egypt's History...

Originally posted by daryllyn
reply to post by undo

 

Its called a figure of speech. That statement was meant to be taken figuratively, not literally.

I know 'you' didn't do anything.

then why do you keep bringing up the color of my skin as if it was a blanket of shame i have to drag around with me my whole life? is there more to reality than i'm being told ? is there some super secret document that proves we are born into our current skin colors in order to pay for the sins of the past that we personally commited? like, was i a white general that screwed over a native american tribe and can anyone prove it? if not, WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING MY SKIN COLOR IS GUILTY? it's just a bunch of chemicals? ya know, atoms and molecules.

reply to post by undo


All I was getting at, is that I can see where the man in the video was coming from, even if his message wasn't delivered in the most mature way.

I can also see where the protesters were coming from.

Seeing it from both perspectives allowed me to see some parallels among their grievances.

All I was doing was pointing out that they are both complaining about what basically amounts to the same thing, regardless of when it took place.

I am not going to engage you in an argument; we are both entitled to our respective opinions, and, it really is okay if we don't see eye to eye.

reply to post by undo


"you" didn't do anything, you are just benefiting from the what people like "you" did 200 yrs ago.

You think you would have the same brag rights(among others hell of lot of rights and privileges) if that didn't happen? heck this discussion would not even take place.

Have you been ever told to "go back to your country?" even if you were born here? (other than this video of course lol).

You have not lived the life of a minority(legal or illegal), no point in acting like you understand how society works when you have different perspective(an entitled life).

Originally posted by daryllyn
Law on the books or not, it was still wrong.

Morally wrong in many ways. But not legally wrong.
That's why we can't call settlers 'illegal immigrants'.

It's a double standard. Its alright for the 'white' man to come here and rape, murder, and pillage the natives, but, it's not okay for others to jump the border and commit crimes? .

I don't think anyone said it was okay for white people to come here and rape, murder and pillage the natives. If anyone did say it on this thread, I'm not seeing it.

Originally posted by ErgoTheConclusion

Originally posted by FlyersFan
They broke no laws in doing so.

But they did break treaties. Repeatedly.

Broken treaties after settling is different than coming here illegally.
THAT is what is illegal .. the broken treaties.
Settleing .. not illegal. Some big moral problems of course .. but it was not illegal.

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by undo

 

"you" didn't do anything, you are just benefiting from the what people like "you" did 200 yrs ago.

You think you would have the same brag rights(among others hell of lot of rights and privileges) if that didn't happen? heck this discussion would not even take place.

Have you been ever told to "go back to your country?" even if you were born here? (other than this video of course lol).

You have not lived the life of a minority(legal or illegal), no point in acting like you understand how society works when you have different perspective(an entitled life).

what entitled life? when you're poor, the bread doesn't get buttered any differently, regardless of skin color. white people have historically been murdered, enslaved, taken advantage of, lied to, cheated, stolen from, killed by deliberate poisoning and deliberate infection, gased, worked to death in communist camps or capitalist enterprises lacking safety measures,, had the culture stolen from them, forcibly converted to new religions in order to survive and on and on. why is it suddenly a skin color issue ?

Its good to see that my own people are standing up and speaking out. Its about time that the whites and blacks realize they are the illegals here. We never asked for a dang one of you, yet you forced your way in here gave us diseases that killed off most of our people. And now you want to complain because the Mexicans are coming in illegally. Isn't that like the kettle calling the pot black??

In a way I hope they do send all 11 million illegals back to their countries, that way you all can die a swift death when your economy all goes to hell and back. Those of us that know how to live off the land will have it made, but the rest of you will starve to death because this is something that even your government can't help you with.

As with anything there is a down side, believe me this will have such a down side that every white and black out there that relies on stores, and store bought food will feel. And even your jobs will feel it. that is if you have one to go to. because if you take away 11 million people stores will be closing very fast. Factories, and so much more.

Then when all the American lazy folks are dead, we will invite the illegals back here to live. At least they are not stupid people. They know how to live, like us.

Like I said go ahead send every last one back, the faster the better so we can watch the stupid Americans die a painful death, with diseases, starvation and much more. When you can't pay your water and light bills you will die from thirst, and from the cold. Die like lazy people like you are, for not a one of you will do the work of a real Native American and live off the land. Nor will you do the field work of an illegal Mexican because you are to fat and lazy. Die and then the Americas will once again belong to the people it was meant for.

It will be a day of celebration for the Native Americans, we will laugh and celebrate how all the stupid white and black men killed themselves. it shall be the greatest celebration of them all.

Again, I have to stress that this whole argument works IN FAVOR of immigration control, not against it. Native Americans did not have good immigration control and look how their culture ended up.

The man in the video is a living proof AGAINST unchecked immigration,if anything. Thats the logical conclusion.

reply to post by AuntC


i'm calling your post a deliberate troll. you one of those people that go to protests and start violence?