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Knew you was going to play that card, that is going back a long time ago, why stop there? We could go back to the days when we were all little fish in the sea?
Originally posted by undo
well then let's all go back to africa cause that's where we are all from, according to mainstream science. and then, we will all be indigenous.
The man in the video is a living proof AGAINST unchecked immigration,if anything. Thats the logical conclusion.
Originally posted by liverlad
Knew you was going to play that card, that is going back a long time ago, why stop there? We could go back to the days when we were all little fish in the sea?
Originally posted by undo
well then let's all go back to africa cause that's where we are all from, according to mainstream science. and then, we will all be indigenous.
Native Americans have been in America for hundreds of thousands of years, and some tribes have even been there so long that they have adapted to the enviroment, these people can be classed as "indigenous". The ansestors of European settlers have only been there for hundreds of years and are indigenous to other parts of the globe, mainly Europe.
There is a massive difference between hunreds of thousands, and just hundreds.
I said nothing about being an immigrant, you were talking about being "indigenous" which means something totally different. You are obviously not an immigrant in a country if you are born there. An immigrant is someone who was born in one country and lives in another.
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by liverlad
Knew you was going to play that card, that is going back a long time ago, why stop there? We could go back to the days when we were all little fish in the sea?
Originally posted by undo
well then let's all go back to africa cause that's where we are all from, according to mainstream science. and then, we will all be indigenous.
Native Americans have been in America for hundreds of thousands of years, and some tribes have even been there so long that they have adapted to the enviroment, these people can be classed as "indigenous". The ansestors of European settlers have only been there for hundreds of years and are indigenous to other parts of the globe, mainly Europe.
There is a massive difference between hunreds of thousands, and just hundreds.
well is there a magical cut-off date where you are no longer an immigrant? i think that's the big question here.
Northern European populations – including British, Scandinavians, French and some Eastern Europeans – descend from a mixture of two very different ancestral populations a new study finds, and one of these populations is related to Native Americans. The results of this study, published in the November issue of the Genetics Society of America’s journal GENETICS, help fill in the gaps in scientific understanding of both Native American and Northern European ancestry, while providing an explanation for some genetic similarities among what would otherwise seem to be very divergent groups.
Nick Patterson, of the Broad Institute, says, “There is a genetic link between the paleolithic population of Europe and modern Native Americans. The evidence is that the population that crossed the Bering Strait from Siberia into the Americas more than 15,000 years ago was likely related to the ancient population of Europe.”
The Bering Strait is a current day channel of water linking the Arctic Ocean and the Bering Sea. This channel separates the continents of Asian and North America by a margin of only 53 miles at its narrowest point. Scientists believe that some 20,000 to 25,000 years ago – during the late Pleistocene – massive continental glaciers formed in the northern hemisphere, locking up so much water that the world’s oceans were more than 300 feet lower than current day levels. This exposed an unglaciated tract known as the Bering Land Bridge, connecting Northeastern Siberia with Alaska, and allowing for migrations of animals and hominins from Asia to North America. Current theories hold that this land bridge was open until as recently as 11,000 years ago.
Patterson and his colleagues, including Harvard Medical School Professor of Genetics David Reich, studied DNA diversity, finding that one of these ancestral populations was the first farming population of Europe. The DNA of this group lives on today in relatively unmixed form in Sardinians and the people of the Basque Country. It is also present in at least the Druze population of the Middle East.
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The second ancestral population is likely to have been the hunter-gathering population of Europe, which today appears to have its closest affinity to people in far Northeastern Siberia and Native Americans. When they met, these two populations were very different.
Well some of them have been around long enough to adapt to their enviroment, take the Eskimos of North America for example,
Originally posted by chrome413
reply to post by liverlad
There is no archaeological evidence Native Americans have been here for hundreds of thousands of years. None. In fact, they aren't even the original inhabitants of the continent. Don't just take my word for it, do a little research.
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
You only own what you can defend.
The Red Indians failed to defend their own lands and worse, were on constant warfare with each other. They had no system of effective governance but only utilitarian barbarism upon each other.
It was only a matter of time before they wiped each other out, for history had proven no barbaric society could survive. If not for the english immigrants, it would other ethnic immigrants from our world whom may had settled upon the american landmass, such as the russians or the chinese, if they had their own act together back then.
Today, in our modern and evolved santised world, it is easy to condemn the english settlers of atrocities against the red indians, nor should there be any attempt to cover up such atrocities.
However, EQUALLY, mankind SHOULD NOT attempt to cover up the barbarisms of the red indians wrecked upon innocent american settlers EVEN AFTER peace had been agreed upon.
Only the truth can set us free. May the freed indians today whom lived in a better rule of law american society today and treated equally as a fellow american, reflect upon their own ancestors before pointing angry fingers at current day americans.
Well you become indiginous to a land once you have adapted to live off that land...
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by liverlad
Well you become indiginous to a land once you have adapted to live off that land...
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by liverlad
Well you become indiginous to a land once you have adapted to live off that land...
Originally posted by undo
Then there is no argument.
Originally posted by liverlad
Well you become indiginous to a land once you have adapted to live off that land...
Originally posted by undo
After being shown how to do it by the indigenous people of the land... yes.
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by liverlad
Well you become indiginous to a land once you have adapted to live off that land...
Originally posted by undo
didn't the colonials learn how to do that? i mean they grew corn, churned butter, baked bread, dug the wells, built houses out of trees and stones, etc?
Originally posted by liverlad
After being shown how to do it by the indigenous people of the land... yes.
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by liverlad
Well you become indiginous to a land once you have adapted to live off that land...
Originally posted by undo
didn't the colonials learn how to do that? i mean they grew corn, churned butter, baked bread, dug the wells, built houses out of trees and stones, etc?edit on 6-2-2013 by liverlad because: (no reason given)
Not ours, the ones who ran away. None of them are my ansectors otherwise i would be American wouldn't i?
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by liverlad
After being shown how to do it by the indigenous people of the land... yes.
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by liverlad
Well you become indiginous to a land once you have adapted to live off that land...
Originally posted by undo
didn't the colonials learn how to do that? i mean they grew corn, churned butter, baked bread, dug the wells, built houses out of trees and stones, etc?edit on 6-2-2013 by liverlad because: (no reason given)
It is all you Europeans fault anyway.