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You disagree with what he was saying because he was with his child?
Originally posted by randyvs
I would disagree with this man in video, even if he had enough for thought, to dignify himself by pushing the child home first and then engaging the protesters upon return. There is no limit to what could have happened as a result of his thoughtless provocations. Frankly, I think he's an idiot.edit on 6-2-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
America happened because of the greed of those leaving Britain and Europe.
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by Dispo
America seems like such an angry place.
True.
Its ironic that America "happened" because of all the "anger" of those leaving Britain and Europe, wouldn't you say?
Originally posted by liverlad
Do disagree with what he was saying because he was with his child?
Originally posted by randyvs
I would disagree with this man in video, even if he had enough for thought, to dignify himself by pushing the child home first and then engaging the protesters upon return. There is no limit to what could have happened as a result of his thoughtless provocations. Frankly, I think he's an idiot.edit on 6-2-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
Sorry, that's a load of bullcrap, what he said was 100% fact and the protesters knew it.
Originally posted by daryllyn
reply to post by FlyersFan
Europeans who settled in America weren't 'illegal immigrants'. There were no laws restricting them from coming in.
Law on the books or not, it was still wrong. They came here and basically took over. They robbed, raped, murdered, and purposely introduced small pox to the natives. The fact that laws weren't on the books doesn't make it any more 'okay'.
Unlike the illegals who come into America today who break laws coming here. They are an invasion of civilians .. and drug gangs ... And they will, in the end, become the new MAJORITY in this country.
That doesn't sound that much different than what the 'white' man did. The small pox introduction could be taken as biological warfare today. Last I checked rape, murder, and robbery are also illegal and would be wrong regardless if a law were on the books or not.
I don't blame immigrants for coming over the border. They get free food, medical, college grants, etc, why wouldn't they come over? Illinois even wants to give them driver's licenses. We are basically giving them incentives.
We might as well put up a big flashing 'OPEN' sign.
It's a double standard. Its alright for the 'white' man to come here and rape, murder, and pillage the natives, but, it's not okay for others to jump the border and commit crimes?
Hey, Pot? It's me, Kettle.
I am in no way saying that I condone illegal immigration, but, its funny that we complain about it, when immigration is the very mechanism by which our nation originated, especially when we are giving them so many incentives to do so.
How can you not be indigenous in your own place of birth?
By having ansestors who came from elsewhere.
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by liverlad
Do disagree with what he was saying because he was with his child?
Originally posted by randyvs
I would disagree with this man in video, even if he had enough for thought, to dignify himself by pushing the child home first and then engaging the protesters upon return. There is no limit to what could have happened as a result of his thoughtless provocations. Frankly, I think he's an idiot.edit on 6-2-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
Sorry, that's a load of bullcrap, what he said was 100% fact and the protesters knew it.
how can you not be indigenous in your own place of birth?
Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by undo
I'm not sure where you live, but perspective changes when you skin colour is different from the majority. Its done both sides sub-consciously.
Its the same feeling Skin colour A gets when it enters a room with many Skin colour B.
On the side note, have you seen ABC's "What would you do?" scenarios?
Originally posted by BrandonD
Originally posted by Juggernog
A dominate people with a dominate army discover a land thats inhabited by a weaker people with a weaker army and this happened over 100 years ago by people that are long dead.
(Ignoring the abundant spelling and grammatical errors, and focusing just on the inane argument)
How about this scenario: A smarter group of people (hispanics) infiltrate the borders of a country whose inhabitants are too dumb to protect their borders properly.
That's the situation today, sounds just like the argument you made above.
You say that basically the native americans have to just "take it", I guess you're just gonna have to take it as well aren't you?edit on 6-2-2013 by BrandonD because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by kerazeesicko
Also love people saying get over it when it comes to native and black history when atrocities have been done to them.
Yet never forget when 9/11 and the Jewish holocaust occurred. Yeah no racism there...
It is never forget when it happens to the white culture..yet get over it when any other culture.
Why do white people call other cultures barbarians, and then in the same sentence say the white man brought culture..etc. Which is BS..the just knew how to manipulate and hide their motives better.
But why should I mourn the passing of our people? Tribes are made of men, nothing more. Men come and go, like the waves of the sea. A tear, a prayer to the Great Spirit, a dirge, and they are gone from our longing eyes forever. Even the white man, whose God walked and talked with him as friend to friend, cannot escape the common destiny. We may be brothers after all. We shall see.
Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by undo
I know skin colour is irrelevant, its simple logic. But most of the world, still dwells in old ideologies, and old people(obviously not everyone is like my "racist"grandfather) still hold onto it. Only hope i see are in children that are born after 1995~, its a common place for a skin A to bring skin B to play at his house. I can see my niece and nephew play with kids of different colour. when i grew up, it was tough for me to bring different "coloured" friends home, its not because my parents are racist but they are not used to it(and stereotypes don't help either).
I think i have friends of every colour except Native American lol(only because there is not much around my area).
Originally posted by liverlad
By having ansestors who came from elsewhere.
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by liverlad
Do disagree with what he was saying because he was with his child?
Originally posted by randyvs
I would disagree with this man in video, even if he had enough for thought, to dignify himself by pushing the child home first and then engaging the protesters upon return. There is no limit to what could have happened as a result of his thoughtless provocations. Frankly, I think he's an idiot.edit on 6-2-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
Sorry, that's a load of bullcrap, what he said was 100% fact and the protesters knew it.
how can you not be indigenous in your own place of birth?
If i brought a pet Kangaroo to America, and it had babies would those baby Kangaroos be indigenous to America? No beacuse Kangaroos didn't originate from America.edit on 6-2-2013 by liverlad because: (no reason given)edit on 6-2-2013 by liverlad because: (no reason given)