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"The Jews of our times fall into two main divisions: Sephardim and Ashkenazim.
The Sephardim are descendants of the Jews who since antiquity had lived in Spain (in Hebrew Sepharad) until they were expelled at the end of the fifteenth century and settled in the countries bordering the Mediterranean, the Balkans, and to a lesser extent in Western Europe. They spoke a Spanish-Hebrew dialect, Ladino, and preserved their own traditions and religious rites. In the 1960s, the number of Sephardim was estimated at 500,000.
The Ashkenazim, at the same period, numbered about eleven million. Thus, in common parlance, Jew is practically synonymous with Ashkenazi Jew." ( page 181).
In Mr. Koestler's own words, "The story of the Khazar Empire, as it slowly emerges from the past, begins to look like the most cruel hoax which history has ever perpetrated."
The history of the Ashkenazi Jews was widely known and appreciated in the former Soviet Union. Ashkenazi militants traced the area where the Turkic Khazars originated before their migration to Southern Russia to Birobidjan, an Eastern Siberian area as big as Switzerland bordered by the Amur river, by China and Mongolia. Around 1928 they started building settlements with the Soviet government's help and in 1934 the Autonomous Republic (Okrug) of Birobidjan Yevrei came into being with official languages of Yiddish and Russian. It is still there as an Autonomous Republic to this day, offering the only historically legitimate settlement area for Ashkenazi Jews willing to exercise their "right to return"…
Mr. Koestler was an Ashkenazi Jew and took pride in his Khazar ancestry. He was also a very talented and successful writer who published over 25 novels and essays. His most successful book, Darkness at Noon, was translated in thirty-three languages.
As expected, The Thirteenth Tribe caused a stir when published in 1976, since it demolishes ancient racial and ethnic dogmas...At the height of the controversy in 1983, the lifeless bodies of Arthur Koestler and his wife were found in their London home. Despite significant inconsistencies, the police ruled their death a suicide...Another Mossad "suicide"!
Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by Antonio1
yeah, its a living language.
It had its formative years while Jews were trying to pretend to be christian to avoid persecution by the church...or so I am told. The language Jews spoke at the time in Spain adapted to survive the linguistic drift suffered during the inquisition and the prior years of co-existence with Muslims and Christians in Spain. I forget what was spoken before Ladino by Sephardic Jews...probably Hebrew but something tells me I am wrong.
EDIT:
Here is a good read about Ladino.
www.sephardicstudies.org...edit on 5-2-2013 by zedVSzardoz because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TrueBrit
Excuse me, but genetics has nothing to do with what religious philosophy one subscribes to . Only a eugenicist (which is basically a word to describe a person who expresses thier xenophobia using genetics rather than using bullets or fists) would give a damn about the distinction, and the opinions of such folk really dont mean a whole hell of a lot.
Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by ZakOlongapo
I dont get why the real bloodline of Jews really matters. When most Jews in the Jewish Torah who really meant anything were converts into Judaism.
edit on 5-2-2013 by FreedomEntered because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by resoe26
All I know is that my grandparents were Jews from Spain. (NW Spain, Galicia)
Apparently, there are many hispanics of jewish ancestry. Even in Mexico.
-Just look for the noses.
(like mine, guilty as charged)edit on 5-2-2013 by resoe26 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by HelenConway
Originally posted by resoe26
All I know is that my grandparents were Jews from Spain. (NW Spain, Galicia)
Apparently, there are many hispanics of jewish ancestry. Even in Mexico.
-Just look for the noses.
(like mine, guilty as charged)edit on 5-2-2013 by resoe26 because: (no reason given)
people from Spain are NOT hispanic - they are white European.
They are Spanish, they are not native to Central / Southern America .
Wish Americans would stop calling Spanish people Hispanic, it is so ignorant/edit on 6-2-2013 by HelenConway because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FreedomEntered
reply to post by bluemirage5
explain why jews were not nomadic, ever heard of the diaspora?
Originally posted by resoe26
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And I agree with you that Spainiards are "white europeans"
I already stated this in my earlier posts. Galicia is especially white. Many red heads there.
BTW.
People native to Central/South America are considered "Latino" even though they don't really have any genetic relation to Actual Latin folks (which would be euro)edit on 6-2-2013 by resoe26 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by HelenConway
Originally posted by resoe26
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And I agree with you that Spainiards are "white europeans"
I already stated this in my earlier posts. Galicia is especially white. Many red heads there.
BTW.
People native to Central/South America are considered "Latino" even though they don't really have any genetic relation to Actual Latin folks (which would be euro)edit on 6-2-2013 by resoe26 because: (no reason given)
i know it is crazy. Spanish are Spanish not hispanic or latino !!!!!!!! ie South West European not meso American in origin,
I must say it is ONLY the Americans who refer to the Spanish as Latino or Hispanic - noone else anywhere in the world does that. The rest of the world knows they are European - why don't the Americans ? [ en masse]edit on 6-2-2013 by HelenConway because: (no reason given)