Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by Hugues de Payens
You and I are protected by The Constitution from murder by our own government regardless of whether we are phyically present with in the US or somewhere outside of our borders.
I gotta disagree with you here.
The constitution doesn't protect someone with a gun pointing it at someone important.
The government can kill you is the point I am getting across.
And laws can be changed to allow killing by drone to happen.
Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by Swills
I don't get what there going to achieve from this...I mean what are they going to do, shoot hellfire missiles on someone walking down the sidewalk in a city?
I think I have agreed that yes the government can kill, but only under special circumstances and only as a last resort while protecting themselves or the lives oothers. The manner in which the killing takes place does not matter.
They are not, however allowed to murder. That, to me, is the distinction. Maybe you and I disagree on whether killing the alleged terrorists was murder?
Also, who in your mind is important and who is not? The Constitution provides for equal protection under the law for all US citizens, not just those who one person or another may consider important. More subjectivity.... we cannot allow laws to be applied in a subjective manner. Otherwise we are ALL subject to the whims of whoever the decider may be.
Originally posted by LightsideAssassin
These are the powers of a king, not a president.
Originally posted by LightsideAssassin.
What are we, the people, going to do about it?
Originally posted by Hugues de Payens
The US Constitution....
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."Bold lettering added...
There is NO justifications, exceptions, caviats, yea buts, or any reasons listed in this document allowing the murder of US citizens with out a trial.