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reply to post by stutteringp0et
Like everyone else who speaks about such things, she is probably speaking to people who already know about it - and have no power to change it.
Originally posted by nOraKat
Originally posted by NonchalantUnder Agenda 21 all central government and local authority signatories are required to conform strictly to a common prescribed standard and hence this is just communism resurrected in a new guise.
Wow, you guys are confusing - so the globalist secret government wants to resurrect communism? I thought they were fighting for capitalism..
So I think the big question is whether Agenda 21 genuinely has good intentions or is being used as a tool to result in the detriment of our society. I am not sure how things like environmental concerns can be used as a tool for a globalist agenda.
I am not sure if I am even opposed to a globalist agenda. It depends on how it will be run. If it is run well for the well being of our Earth and it's beings, then I am not against it.
Originally posted by chrome413
reply to post by Darkphoenix77
I don't see how you could possibly read what I wrote and come to your conclusion. I think you may not even be reading them. Being blinded by your own preconceived notions. Open your mind and Deny Ignorance.
Originally posted by chrome413
reply to post by Darkphoenix77
Again, nowhere, I repeat- Nowhere, do I see anyone writing anything about "forced" limits on births. The couple suggestions I threw out off the top of my head were completely voluntary programs. I don't personally think forced limits are anyone's right either, but again, I never suggested that.
You know, I'm done. There is obviously a connection not being made somewhere and it's completely pointless to further this discussion. The last word is yours.
Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
Originally posted by chrome413
reply to post by Darkphoenix77
Look, I am not trying to be a jerk, I just honestly don't see your point. If they are "voluntary" than how could they possibly accomplish anything? The people that don't want to have kids or only a certain amount are already doing so of thier own free will.
I don't want to come across as a jerk either. I'm sorry for anything negative I implied earlier.
I do think though that over population is a problem. And I think reducing the world's population is something that could be achieved over several generations. And I don't mean some drastic 75% reduction at all. Maybe stagnant population growth would be a better term for me to use than population reduction.
It's a proven fact that the more education women have, the fewer children the have. I'd like to see the "underdeveloped world" better educated. Also, there is the option of making birth control more readily available to people. In fact, I read an article on yahoo the other day about a male birth control shot that makes sperm immobile and lasts for like 6 months or something. I think if people had options then they may choose to have fewer children. Maybe even special tax breaks for people who choose to have only one child, or even two, because two would result in 0 net population growth.
I don't like or support any idea similar to China's One Child policy. Or anything involving genocide or any population control forced on anyone. I just think it's something that could be accomplished voluntarily if approached properly.
I know I said I was done, but I thought I should restate my position more rationally without the curtness. If we disagree, that's cool.edit on 7-2-2013 by chrome413 because: i have no idea why my reply is all in the quote thing. still trying to figure out ats.
I don't want to come across as a jerk either. I'm sorry for anything negative I implied earlier.
I do think though that over population is a problem. And I think reducing the world's population is something that could be achieved over several generations. And I don't mean some drastic 75% reduction at all. Maybe stagnant population growth would be a better term for me to use than population reduction.
It's a proven fact that the more education women have, the fewer children the have. I'd like to see the "underdeveloped world" better educated. Also, there is the option of making birth control more readily available to people. In fact, I read an article on yahoo the other day about a male birth control shot that makes sperm immobile and lasts for like 6 months or something. I think if people had options then they may choose to have fewer children. Maybe even special tax breaks for people who choose to have only one child, or even two, because two would result in 0 net population growth.
I don't like or support any idea similar to China's One Child policy. Or anything involving genocide or any population control forced on anyone. I just think it's something that could be accomplished voluntarily if approached properly.
I know I said I was done, but I thought I should restate my position more rationally without the curtness. If we disagree, that's cool.edit on 7-2-2013 by chrome413 because: i have no idea why my reply is all in the quote thing. still trying to figure out ats.
Originally posted by Sly1one
Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this one is a vague way of introducing GMO crops as the new and only "sustainable" crops for the future...again another power grab that will require, license, taxes, registrations, laws and tickets...making the industry ONLY affordable and profitable to the government or those in bed with them...we have already seen how the government regulations have made agriculture/farming increasingly impractical for the average person...
Originally posted by alienDNA
edit: and the part about depopulation, whats wrong with that? we are way to many people.
my idea would be to eradicate africa (what is already going on) and use that country for something commercial.
food or what have you.
i mean whats the point of having sex, born a baby, then let it starve to death? lol. so stupid africans.
the fact that they are black has nothing to do with it, so if your thinking this is racism you are wrong
Originally posted by alienDNA
my idea would be to eradicate africa (what is already going on) and use that country for something commercial.
food or what have you.
Originally posted by chrome413
Originally posted by alienDNA
my idea would be to eradicate africa (what is already going on) and use that country for something commercial.
food or what have you.
I think that's the problem with Africa. Nothing grows there. If they could grow food then they wouldn't be in the same predicament they are.
And I do agree about not making babies if you can't feed them. But we all know sex feels good. And get a guy horny and he isn't thinking with his big head- it's in the heat of the moment. That's why there needs to be some birth control made available to the under developed parts of the world.
Originally posted by Pervius
Australia should have no say in the Planets future.
Anyone who's studied Australia has read about them hyper polluting their prime areas.....using chemicals/herbicides/toxins all over.....made many of their native life forms extinct.
Worst farming experiment ever on planet Earth......they're use of chemicals/toxins all over has decimated them.
If left alone Australia will kill itself over time.
The only GOOD thing out of Australia right now is that their kids are refusing to use the internet/ mass media devices. So there is a tiny bit of hope for them....but those kids now have bad DNA from the dioxins and toxins used down there.
Originally posted by RadAnonima
Originally posted by Sly1one
Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this one is a vague way of introducing GMO crops as the new and only "sustainable" crops for the future...again another power grab that will require, license, taxes, registrations, laws and tickets...making the industry ONLY affordable and profitable to the government or those in bed with them...we have already seen how the government regulations have made agriculture/farming increasingly impractical for the average person...
already happening. One member here mentioned the are moving the farming to QLD... thats true but above and beyond that they are geo-engineering the region here to have many months of drought followed by huge floods each january... essentially killing off massive amounts of crops up here too... just wait and see they will start pushing more and more GMO which is designed to grow faster and bigger and the farmers, in their desperation, will lap it up having no other alternative
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Originally posted by yourignoranceisbliss
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Murgatroid
Indeed, I bury my head in the sand by visiting ATS.
Indeed, why do you come to ATS if you dislike everything here?
Find a better job perhaps? Spending all day on this website, looking for threads to troll, you must be a very sad and lonely person. Hope you're being paid well at least!