Originally posted by syrinx high priest
this propaganda was aimed at the iranian people, not isreal or the west
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by digital01anarchy
You're confusing the stealth bomber with the F-117. The F-117 flew for years before it was unveiled. The B-2 was unveiled just before its first flight, and was a grey project. It was public from the start. The F-117 was finally revealed because there were several sightings of it, and they had to start doing daytime flying.
It doesn't matter if the US is 100 years ahead of everyone else on the planet. There are still ways to get through the defenses and hurt our military. As I said in another thread all Iran has to do is get one missile through to a carrier, and they can get a mission kill. The CSG has to stop 100% of the missiles 100% of the time. Do the math. Sooner or later they're going to get one through. And that's without even starting to talk about the diesel subs, and sonar conditions in the Gulf. If the US goes after Iran, it's going to hurt. The Iranians won't be able to stop us, unless the politicians and public do what they usually do, and wimp out in the middle of it, but it's going to hurt a lot more than Iraq and Afghanistan did.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by harryhaller
And that has what to do with the Iranian prototype? Or is it just another excuse to slam the US for something?
reply to post by milkyway12
It's not designed for high speed. It's a tactical bomber, most likely designed for low level attack, based on the downward wingtips.
or check out the F-104 that we used for a long time..it had REALLY tiny wings...
oh here, here's another page ALL ABOUT trainer aircraft, some of which are just training versions of actual fighter aircraft....tiny wings, and a small airframe do not necessarily mean fakery, or an inability to perform in combat..
Originally posted by CaptainBeno
reply to post by Cosmic4life
Take note of my name. Captain.
Second, yes I have flown many aircraft including Prototype aircraft.
Yes I have seen wings like that before but not on fighter aircraft
You are a bit rude?
Plus it's small, has no engines and the wings are something I have never seen before. Massive drag?? Strange they would showcase tis to the world.....do they presume we are all thick?
Originally posted by golemina
All of you naysayers!
This is a formidable looking fighter/bomber...
The Iranians were bragging about this very scary aircraft... Anti-radar skin, unmatched air-to-air missiles and of course, without a doubt the finest pilots in the world.
It is obviously going to be the mother of all fighters...
For a MANNED aircraft the scaling is TOTALLY off.
Scale the pilot... Now go look at some REAL aircraft.
Zaphod has obviously got something against Amerikans... So skip those A.S.S. type aircraft for now.
Look at the latest, greatest Russian hardware...
Now look at the size of this cartoon version of a fighter/bomber...
You REALLY think they're going to put a J85 in that thing?
Much less attach any kind of external tanks or ordinance to this thing?
I've got a word for you Military Industrial Complex (actually 3 words!).
Do you guys have ANY idea of the baseline technologies and man hours it takes to put a modern airplane together?
Sure, the Iranians are clever, but...
The baseline technologies to get the job done does NOT exist in Iran.
Currently Stealth technology comes in two flavors... inherent radar profile and radar negating skin.
This puppy plainly doesn't have either one...
And the Iranians sure do NOT have access to those technologies...
So you're betting the farm Zaphod that this thing is some kind of mockup...
That's NOT exactly how they rolled it out for all of the world to see...
And here I was worried our old pal, the Iraqi Minister of Information had been forgotten.
This thing was obviously designed as a naval airframe, it's going to be the main strike craft for the new twin J'aiPeur aircraft carriers, I believe set to be unveiled next week, that will be joining the vaunted Iranian 24th Fleet safeguarding the Mediterranean Sea.
Those Persians are NOT to be trifled with...
edit on 5-2-2013 by golemina because: Missing phrase.
Originally posted by hellobruce
Here is another fine example of Iranian engineering....
Seeing as Zaphod is not here....I'll have a piece of you.
First..it is a three quarter scale Mock-up.
Second...Iran has it's own Military Industrial Complex.
Third..Stealth come in four flavors...Profile...skin material....paint...and plasma.
Fourth...Iran has access to all four technologies.
Fifth...what kind of fool would ruin the whole point of stealth by attaching external tanks and ordnance ?? hmmm ?? by definition these things have to be carried internally.
Six...A mock-up is exactly how the Iranians rolled it out...at no point have they said it was a production bomber.
Seven...J'ai Peur ?? Your afraid ?? well they do say Hubris and Bravado is a sign of insecurity...and your post is full of it.
I have something against people that say that the US will obviously walk all over any country that we have to fight without taking a single loss, and are 50 years ahead of everyone else technology wise. Something against Americans.....
God that's the funniest thing I've read in ages.