Originally posted by Zaphod58
God I love this board. If it wasn't made by the US it sucks. Worst case of A. S. S. I have ever seen anywhere. This is actually quite an elegant design, but since they do like anyone else has done, and release a mockup instead of a prototype, and don't immediately have it flying it has to suck. Give me a break. Since it's not a Mach 12 fighter it has to suck. What a joke.

edit on 2/4/2013 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)

I don't know that much about planes but I did see the Stealth bomber the first time in was unveiled to the public. It was hands down the most advanced plane of its era and the USA had the plane for 10 years before they unveiled it. I really have a hard time believing they show whats up their sleeves when it comes to planes without having something that they can counter with. I think there are a lot of people who what to believe its all a bluff that the usa doesn't make good planes and got lucky with stealth tech! Mostly Europeans who want to believe their pilots are better and their planes are better. The point is a plane that couldn't be tracked with conventional radar and could aim with pin point accuracy to its target scared countries around the world and that was in the 80's to early 90's. Do you really believe the best they can come up with now is the f-35? The same people who built the blackbird and the stealth bomber? I mean the SR-71 was built in the 70's and still holds the record "Since 1976, it has held the world record for the fastest air-breathing manned aircraft, a record previously held by the YF-12"

Dont think they wanna tell the world what the plane does or doesnt do ,the news just talk about the new plane ,nothing to worry about.we dont know if the plane retracts the wings or not or any other usable info,its just for show,i like airplanes,even the ancient aliens airplanes...

Originally posted by digital01anarchy

Originally posted by Zaphod58
God I love this board. If it wasn't made by the US it sucks. Worst case of A. S. S. I have ever seen anywhere. This is actually quite an elegant design, but since they do like anyone else has done, and release a mockup instead of a prototype, and don't immediately have it flying it has to suck. Give me a break. Since it's not a Mach 12 fighter it has to suck. What a joke.

edit on 2/4/2013 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)

I don't know that much about planes but I did see the Stealth bomber the first time in was unveiled to the public. It was hands down the most advanced plane of its era and the USA had the plane for 10 years before they unveiled it. I really have a hard time believing they show whats up their sleeves when it comes to planes without having something that they can counter with. I think there are a lot of people who what to believe its all a bluff that the usa doesn't make good planes and got lucky with stealth tech! Mostly Europeans who want to believe their pilots are better and their planes are better. The point is a plane that couldn't be tracked with conventional radar and could aim with pin point accuracy to its target scared countries around the world and that was in the 80's to early 90's. Do you really believe the best they can come up with now is the f-35? The same people who built the blackbird and the stealth bomber? I mean the SR-71 was built in the 70's and still holds the record "Since 1976, it has held the world record for the fastest air-breathing manned aircraft, a record previously held by the YF-12"

Actually the SR-71 was built in the 60's

A-12....SR-71....YF-12.. in sequence...in the 60's

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Fake? Probably not. But it's not all that great like Iran seems to be claiming either.

My guess by the looks of it...

I'd say they got their hands on a surplus of American sourced trainer or export jets (F-5 Tigershark?) for engines, avionics, and core fuselage structure of the airframe. Then from there they did some of their own stuff while taking some educated guesses on how stealth works. Computers and simulation are cheap these days, and they do have some half-decent Russian or Chinese radars to play with in addition to some of the older western stuff. (How stealthy it is? Who knows, probably still a decade or two behind our latest and greatest. Looks like something built as an light and cheap interceptor that wouldn't seem to hold up well in a real dogfight. Probably enough to chase away drones or spy aircraft, but that's about it.)

It's likely following the route of their "new" attack helicopter in development, you know that Bell 206 knockoff? (Not that they chose an entirely bad platform, our Kiowa works well for what it does and it's based on that. Then again, the Kiowa certainly isn't a Cobra or Apache.)

The aircraft in the video is a Model, and is likely on display to show the countries leaders, servicemen and people what they have come up with. Chances are they could very well have a few working prototypes, but it's also common to keep those under lock and key until it hits production to keep the companies investment safe. Models like this are also great to secure investors, as well as find new ones. It's one thing to tell your people and investors what you're doing, but a full scale model tends to provide more " Awe. "

Israel is just doing it's best to discredit Iran at all opportunities.

I can't remember who it was that posted it, but I don't think I'd fly this " model " either. Might not serve you well to sit in the hall, making engine noises in the cockpit.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
God I love this board. If it wasn't made by the US it sucks. Worst case of A. S. S. I have ever seen anywhere. This is actually quite an elegant design, but since they do like anyone else has done, and release a mockup instead of a prototype, and don't immediately have it flying it has to suck. Give me a break. Since it's not a Mach 12 fighter it has to suck. What a joke.

And if it WAS a mach 12 fighter... it would be claimed to have been "stolen US technology... but thats OK because 'we' already have a mach 90 that no ones knows about"

Not only can they not build real ones, even their fakes are pathetic.