Chris Kyle, Former Navy Seal And America's Greatest Military Sniper, Murdered

Originally posted by joesomebody

Originally posted by LightningStrikesHere
Ill state it here on your thread too , I honestly do not feel any remorse for this man , it's strange how things work out , he is known as a lire , and he also has 160 confirmed kills under his belt , some of wich were women , i think its a small price to pay for the lives that he took , and that's just the way the world turns

sorry ATS thats just how i feel ......

First, please learn proper spelling and grammar. A cell phone isn't an exuse to type the way you have here.

His killing of men and women was only in situations where they were threatening his fellow soldiers and Americans. I'm guessing you're probably not an American. Regardless of whether you agree with your duty or not, you still follow orders, and that's what he was doing - and keeping his friends safe. The soldiers don't get to choose their wars and battles.

Originally posted by trysts
That's pretty disgusting calling this mass murderer a hero. That's one sick person who wrote this article.

It's pretty disgusting to me that you see him as a mass murderer. War is war, not murder. Whether it's a declared war or not, killing hostiles to yourself and compatriots is not so much murder as self defense. Unless you can pick out a moment where he was killing people for fun in the middle of an Afghan market, and drinking their blood or something, I'd say he's more of a hero and less than a murderer.

You and others who think this way are the reason the world sucks, because of these and other political, economic, and social issues on which you end up taking the side of the tyrants and socialists who are pulling your strings, rather than reading up on history and coming to your own conclusions. Please, try and have an original thought at least once in your bleeding-heart of a life.

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Pot calling kettle black.
*excuse

Originally posted by Superhans
Wow, how many threads on this are there?

At least three active ones that I know of and one inactive one. Perhaps if we get a few more we will at some point deny ignorance. (full disclosure, the first thread was mine, but only by a minute. This one though, by a few hours, so the search should have turned something up)

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Strange how wearing a uniform is the difference between a hero and a serial killer.

This guy was a soldier...and like any soldier he is trained to protect his own forces, and to kill enemy forces. He, like any of his colleagues, was trained to do a certain job within the forces based on his personal skills and aptitudes.

He was then deployed into a war zone, and...he did his job. He shot and killed enemy forces who were threatening to kill his comrades. If he was not as good at his job as he was, more Americans would have been coming home wounded or in body bags. How many lives did he save by eliminating Iraqi belligerents?

This man was a great soldier...and obviously a very gifted technician.

Serial killer? Serial hero is the far more accurate description.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
Those who live by the sword die by the sword so the old saying goes.

Indeed, as for the man's "kill" count, I don't buy it. I never have. Something about his stories reek of propaganda. I tend to think they were exaggerated for effect. He also was in the same circles as Daniel Pearl and it's thought Pearl was a ghost writer of sorts for him. I tend to think he was a created hero for a war very few people believe in now. He was sniper, but was he everything he claimed to be? I doubt it.

Yes, the traitor brigade is out in force today. I wonder how they would react if they suddenly found themselves out on the front lines? They are shooting him in the back even after his death with their snide comments and remarks. The Battle field is one thing, civilian life is a completely different story. That said the cowards feared him, that is why they shot him while his back was turned. (Too afraid to face him like men). I speak in the plural because this definitely has the hall mark of a mind control assassination. I can smell their fear from here.......

I dont think this person was kille because of the service ha had done in the Navy. He was killed by a disturbed person.

Why do we use he back ground to glorify who he was?
This guy used he's life to serve a government cause. A cause most of you dissagree with full out.

What is so good about that?

reply to post by Mr. D


I admire the man for his skill, and don't think he deserved to die. The people that ordered him to do their bidding? That's another story.

In another world he would have perhaps been a rancher and lived to a ripe old age with many adoring grandchildren and without so many deaths on his conscience - in this world, an ordinary man was taken and turned into somebody who was proud to claim 250+ kills, write a self-congratulatory book about it, and be feted as an example of who we want our children to regard as heroes.

Instead we should pity him, feel sorrow for his loved ones (and for all the innocents who suffer as a result of any kind of violence) and use him as an example of the tragedy of war.

Originally posted by Mr. D
Yes, the traitor brigade is out in force today. I wonder how they would react if they suddenly found themselves out on the front lines? They are shooting him in the back even after his death with their snide comments and remarks. The Battle field is one thing, civilian life is a completely different story. That said the cowards feared him, that is why they shot him while his back was turned. (Too afraid to face him like men). I speak in the plural because this definitely has the hall mark of a mind control assassination. I can smell their fear from here.......

Funny how the traitor brigade are also the ones who support dismantling the 2nd as well.

Originally posted by spy66
Why do we use he back ground to glorify who he was?
This guy used he's life to serve a government cause. A cause most of you dissagree with full out.

What is so good about that?

People glorify it because patriotism is simply another form of group think. It keeps people in line. All groups need their heroes and Kyle fit the "Alpha male" pattern perfectly. He's something many men wish to be. If that wasn't true then there wouldn't be so many male figures just like him in action movies. There is something very primitive in his life and it speaks to desires modern men can't voice. The need to be in charge, to defend something, to be the hero. This is why I don't believe most of his story. It's just too much like some old hero myth from bygone days. It's as if his story was invented to fit that model for some "American Patriot" version of the hero myth.

All cultures need heroes, but one should beware them.

reply to post by MidnightTide


I agree with you - but don't you also find it amazing that some posters such as the one you replied to) seem to think that every ATS member is a US citizen.

It reminds me of those politicians who called Julian Assange a "traitor" and that he should be put on trial as such - USA, the Centre of the Universe

Originally posted by deltaalphanovember
reply to post by Mr. D

 

I admire the man for his skill, and don't think he deserved to die. The people that ordered him to do their bidding? That's another story.

In another world he would have perhaps been a rancher and lived to a ripe old age with many adoring grandchildren and without so many deaths on his conscience - in this world, an ordinary man was taken and turned into somebody who was proud to claim 250+ kills, write a self-congratulatory book about it, and be feted as an example of who we want our children to regard as heroes.

Instead we should pity him, feel sorrow for his loved ones (and for all the innocents who suffer as a result of any kind of violence) and use him as an example of the tragedy of war.

Despite anyone's opinion of what he did during his time in service, he gave his word (oath) to protect the Constitution of this Nation and he excelled at what he said he would do. The measure a of man and his word. These are the type of men who excel at almost anything they endeavor to do, it has to with personal fortitude. Cowards on the other hand lie, cheat and steal because they lack these qualities and try to make up for them by lying, cheating, stealing....and shooting people when their backs are turned.

Originally posted by LightningStrikesHere
I honestly do not feel any remorse for this man

I find it sad that you don't feel bad for someone who was murdered.

he is known as a lire ,

You mean liar? No. He's not.

and he also has 160 confirmed kills under his belt , some of wich were women ,

He has 160 confirmed kills of terrorists while he was serving to protect us.
And so what if some were women?? Women can be bad guys too.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by LightningStrikesHere
I honestly do not feel any remorse for this man

I find it sad that you don't feel bad for someone who was murdered.

he is known as a lire ,

You mean liar? No. He's not.

and he also has 160 confirmed kills under his belt , some of wich were women ,

He has 160 confirmed kills of terrorists while he was serving to protect us.
And so what if some were women?? Women can be bad guys too.

how was he protecting us ? from the the Iraqi's WMD ?

what a joke. he was there as a dog of war to protect corporate interests and profit. I dunno how you can glorify that with patriotic rhetoric

he stated he had a bounty on his head and wrote a book. it would have been better to keep quiet I think. he tried to make money on his kills. bad karma there on top of bad idea

but lets not make this guy a 9/11 firefighter or a real hero. he was good at his job but not very smart

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
I dunno how you can glorify that with patriotic rhetoric

I didn't glorify anything. I simply stated a fact. IF he really had 160 kills of terrorists in a war zone then kudos to him. The world is a safer place. The previous poster was upset that some of the terrorist kills might have been female. Gender makes no difference. If someone is a terrorist .. then they are a terrorist ... no matter what organs their body has.

Wen I read the news this morning I was sad.
After reading some of these posts I am more disgusted than sad. I have seen some of these members cry for compassion when it serves their cause but spit on a grave of a husband and father that fulfilled a duty in a position that exists in every military.
Pathetic.
RIP CK.

Maybe he was killed because the federal government was afraid he would fall into the hands of an armed resistance movement? If his kill ratio was enough to get a target on his head in Iraq then it'd probably be enough to get a target on his head in the US too.

yup, well it's sad that anyone gets killed, and in this case by a disturbed individual, hence more damaged lives as a result of this..... but is it really that newsworthy due to his military history rather than as a tragic event amongst many others?
why should we even know who a top scoring sniper is? war is not a game for crying out loud, do we want league tables in the sunday papers for numbers killed by certain soldiers etc? should one get a golden boot/rifle and an awards ceremony and then an appearance on celebrity big brother when you top the table?
in my book he does not deserve the hero status, which is totally devalued these days and is trotted out with the greatest of ease, reference some people's reverence of "vets", which many ex servicemen actually feel quite uncomfortable with.

reply to post by FlyersFan

He has 160 confirmed kills of terrorists while he was serving to protect us.

Terrorists? Oh, you mean Iraqis that were trying to expel a foreign army from their lands.
Oh and, he didnt protect me from anything, no Iraqi has ever harmed me or even threatened me.

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While i am not calling him a "serial killer", I am trying to point out that when you are given a uniform, killing can be considered a good thing. But if you are Lee Boyd Malvo, it is not quite as good.

I am one of those that believes that we haven't fought a just war since WWII. I believe that we could have kept Americans from coming home in body bags by not putting them in a war zone to begin with. If less people were willing to accept that a uniform can equate to a license to kill, there might be far less dead and wounded soldiers.

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