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reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 09:28 PM by JibbyJedi
reply to post by SpearMint





How about instead of calling me arrogant, naive and blind you show me those facts, because without them those words reflect back on you.


I earned my way here by investing 1000s of hours of hard core researching, studying both sides of the arguments, and forming my own opinion based on overwhelming evidence and personal experience.
ETA- Your opinion is a "fact" chart of which you can't even verify the facts of.

I could post 500 links in this thread, and you won't believe any of them as being valid, because they would come from your opponent on the issue. If you want some real truth in this world of con men & propaganda, you're going to have to put that effort in and find it.

Remember though.... if the man is wearing a white coat or a nice suit, and the corporation doing research "for their own product" has an "official" logo, then it's always 100% fact.

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reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 09:36 PM by SpearMint
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
reply to
post by SpearMint





How about instead of calling me arrogant, naive and blind you show me those facts, because without them those words reflect back on you.


I earned my way here by investing 1000s of hours of hard core researching, studying both sides of the arguments, and forming my own opinion based on overwhelming evidence and personal experience.

I could post 500 links in this thread, and you won't believe any of them as being valid, because they would come from your opponent on the issue. If you want some real truth in this world of con men & propaganda, you're going to have to put that effort in and find it.

Remember though.... if the man is wearing a white coat or a nice suit, and the corporation doing research "for their own product" has an "official" logo, then it's always 100% fact.



Do it, post the 500 links because I want to see them. Your ranting means nothing unless you provide something to justify your thinking. With your paranoia the millions upon millions of people shown above would have died. Is it really justified? If you think it is, show me.


reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 09:38 PM by JibbyJedi
reply to post by SpearMint



Have you even spent more than 10 minutes or gone beyond the 1st 3 links in Google looking into vaccines? You are just being a troll and trying to enrage others. What kind of a person says, "What evidence? From conspiracy sites?" ...the kind of person who has never researched much of anything.

Go find some more charts and graphs you can't personally verify yourself to worship.


reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 09:42 PM by SpearMint
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
reply to
post by SpearMint



Have you even spent more than 10 minutes or gone beyond the 1st 3 links in Google looking into vaccines? You are just being a troll and trying to enrage others. What kind of a person says, "What evidence? From conspiracy sites?" ...the kind of person who has never researched much of anything.

Go find some more charts and graphs you can't personally verify yourself to worship.



Don't misquote me, that isn't what I said.

The science is on my side, in theory vaccines work. The evidence is on my side, millions of lives saved, vaccines do indeed work.

You're doubting it, the burden of proof falls on you.

I provided something, YOU provide something.
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reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 09:45 PM by JibbyJedi
reply to post by SpearMint





Do it, post the 500 links because I want to see them.


I could, but I don't have to, there are at least 500 links here:
Type "VACCINES" here

ETA- Before you say it... I'm not talking about thread posts, I'm talking about the links "within" those thread posts.

I know your type. "Show me the evidence! I want to see it. Where is it?"
Then people like me who want to wake up the walking dead, spend hours posting links with good information, and at the end of the day, you still refuse to believe any of it because your ego can't handle that.

The only way you are ever going to believe anything is if you do the leg work yourself. You'll get a feeling of pride & accomplishment doing that work yourself instead of being spoon fed it by others.


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reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 09:50 PM by auraelium
reply to post by SpearMint




The problem is all the mortality rates for all those diseases were on the decline at the same rate before and after the vaccines were introduced........ so it obviously wasnt the vaccines that caused the decline..


Dipteria...



Polio...



Whooping Cough.......





Measles.......



TB......




Whats even more surprising is that Scarlet fever rates have fallen at the same rate as all these other diseases even though there never was or has been a scarlet fever vaccine........
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reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 09:50 PM by SpearMint
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
reply to
post by SpearMint





Do it, post the 500 links because I want to see them.


I could, but I don't have to, there are at least 500 links here:
Type "VACCINES" here

I know your type. "Show me the evidence! I want to see it. Where is it?"
Then people like me who want to wake up the walking dead, spend hours posting links with good information, and at the end of the day, you still refuse to believe any of it because your ego can't handle that.

The only way you are ever going to believe anything is if you do the leg work yourself. You'll get a feeling of pride & accomplishment doing that work yourself instead of being spoon fed it by others.


That's not good enough, you might as well on be replying to this thread. I can't find any proof on ATS.

You're telling me I need to "do the leg work" myself yet you've come in here, argued and passed your work (proving your point) on to me.


reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 09:55 PM by JibbyJedi
reply to post by SpearMint



Read the post above yours. Lots of charts & graphs you seem to like to believe.
Those are good charts, and fairly accurate. Diseases were on the decline when many vaccines came out, but you don't want to point that out when your agenda is promoting their usefulness.

Also read my ETA statement in the previous post. I said not to use the threads as evidence links, but the links within those threads, collected in 1 place, ATS, over the course of many many years. A great 1 stop shopping for links on both sides of the vaccine argument.


reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 10:00 PM by SpearMint
reply to post by auraelium



Here we go, a good source against this: here

The measles graph you provided is very different from the one here, which makes me think your graphs are incorrect, probably created by people against vaccines. I can't find any information to support your graphs.
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reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 10:01 PM by SpearMint
Originally posted by JibbyJedi
reply to
post by SpearMint



Read the post above yours. Lots of charts & graphs you seem to like to believe.
Those are good charts, and fairly accurate. Diseases were on the decline when many vaccines came out, but you don't want to point that out when your agenda is promoting their usefulness.

Also read my ETA statement in the previous post. I said not to use the threads as evidence links, but the links within those threads, collected in 1 place, ATS, over the course of many many years. A great 1 stop shopping for links on both sides of the vaccine argument.



It's not even the same point as you were trying to make, don't use that to get out of backing your claims up. I'm still waiting.


reply posted on 2-2-2013 @ 10:13 PM by JibbyJedi
reply to post by Ghost375



Because you asked so nicely, I'll try to dig something up out of the 1000s of piles of crap out there all conflicting one another. Kind of pissing in the wind in this thread though...

It happened again. The federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) has awarded Ryan Mojabi and his family a multi-million dollar settlement for autism as the result of an injury from the Measles Mumps Rubella (MMR) vaccine. Ryan’s family joins Hannah Poling and at least 85 others who have received judgments for vaccine-induced autism from the VICP. These people aren’t supposed to exist. We are told again and again that vaccines cannot cause autism, vaccines have never caused autism, and vaccines never will cause autism.

Except when they do.

Here is the link to the settlement document. www.uscfc.uscourts.gov...

linky

The numbers are still low because these type of actions are finally coming out.

Start at the 2 minute mark...


Healthcare, new vaccines, reproductive health services = lower population by 10-15%.

I don't want to depopulate myself from here, so I'll not do what Mr. Gates suggests.
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